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250Gbps is still a lot of bandwidth for a network even today. An enterprise ISP like Verizon or Spectrum may have less of a capacity issue with it but for many

250Gbps is still a lot of bandwidth for a network even today. An enterprise ISP like Verizon or Spectrum may have less of a capacity issue with it but for many other networks this is a lot. Quick example, though not an ISP, but the entire Internet archive operates on 60Gbps of bandwidth. So an attack of 250 would be quite a problem. http://blog.archive.org/2020/05/11/thank-you-for-helping-us-increase-our-bandwidth/ http://blog.archive.org/2020/05/11/thank-you-for-helping-us-...

ineedasername 5y ago
the entire Internet archive operates on 60Gbps of bandwidth Wow, yes, that definitely puts the magnitude of this into perspective. Thank you.
Groxx 5y ago
Though that's a substantial amount of traffic: isn't this currently going through one ISP, which (I would hope) has many more customers than just archive.org? "top 160 site" is significant, but still minuscule compared to all internet traffic.
- therealdrag0 5y ago
  I think I’m thinking of it reverse from you. A top 160 site could have more concurrent users than a small regional ISP.
  - Groxx 5y ago
    It might! I suspect my intuition fails at this scale. I have absolutely no data, so I'd definitely be interested in any that can be found. In my defense though! 60Mbps is literally less than one billionth the estimated internet bandwidth these days: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic . I doubt there are even one million ISPs, so it still seems relatively "small" to me. It could definitely be bigger than [random company X] can handle, but it seems like it stands a good chance of being smaller than most in aggregate, so even if it's hard for X to support it's not particularly "interesting" in a state-of-the-art way. And I can completely believe I'm wildly wrong in this. 999/1000+ low-technical-effort ISPs doesn't seem unlikely to me, so 60Mbps could very well be a major achievement as far as I know. I'd be surprised, but... I've been surprised enough that I'm no longer surprised at being surprised. Humans are weird at scale.
    - markonen 5y ago
      The Wikipedia entry you linked to estimates 2021 internet traffic at 276 EB/month. That’s an average 839,625 gigabits per second. So 60 Gbps is one 14,000th of that. Of course, one figure was about capacity and the other about actual traffic, but still.
      - Groxx 5y ago
        Ah, per month. Yep, I missed that, I thought it was per second.
Aeolun 5y ago
I dunno, my home operates on 2Gbps of bandwidth. 250Gbps is half of our neighborhood (not sure what the shared uplink size is though).

ineedasername 5y ago

the entire Internet archive operates on 60Gbps of bandwidth Wow, yes, that definitely puts the magnitude of this into perspective. Thank you.

Groxx 5y ago

Though that's a substantial amount of traffic: isn't this currently going through one ISP, which (I would hope) has many more customers than just archive.org? "top 160 site" is significant, but still minuscule compared to all internet traffic.

therealdrag0 5y ago
I think I’m thinking of it reverse from you. A top 160 site could have more concurrent users than a small regional ISP.
- Groxx 5y ago
  It might! I suspect my intuition fails at this scale. I have absolutely no data, so I'd definitely be interested in any that can be found. In my defense though! 60Mbps is literally less than one billionth the estimated internet bandwidth these days: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic . I doubt there are even one million ISPs, so it still seems relatively "small" to me. It could definitely be bigger than [random company X] can handle, but it seems like it stands a good chance of being smaller than most in aggregate, so even if it's hard for X to support it's not particularly "interesting" in a state-of-the-art way. And I can completely believe I'm wildly wrong in this. 999/1000+ low-technical-effort ISPs doesn't seem unlikely to me, so 60Mbps could very well be a major achievement as far as I know. I'd be surprised, but... I've been surprised enough that I'm no longer surprised at being surprised. Humans are weird at scale.
  - markonen 5y ago
    The Wikipedia entry you linked to estimates 2021 internet traffic at 276 EB/month. That’s an average 839,625 gigabits per second. So 60 Gbps is one 14,000th of that. Of course, one figure was about capacity and the other about actual traffic, but still.
    - Groxx 5y ago
      Ah, per month. Yep, I missed that, I thought it was per second.

Aeolun 5y ago

I dunno, my home operates on 2Gbps of bandwidth. 250Gbps is half of our neighborhood (not sure what the shared uplink size is though).