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Gimp 2.10.28

125 points by marcodiego 5y ago

h2odragon 5y ago
> Very slow file dialogs: it used to happen when network devices were slow or unavailable, or pluggable devices disconnected, or even because of fake floppy drives configured in the BIOS. GLib was using an inappropriate Windows API to get some information about drives. This has been fixed! Cool! I think that bug helped me get my wife to accept an Ubuntu install instead of trying to stick with Win7 last year; it had caused her enough pain to notice, apparently. She mentioned "it doesn't grovel when I swap flash cards" specifically after the switch.
- willis936 5y ago
  Windows hates slow disks in general. When I've had a dying HDD just plugged in, even when that HDD is never accessed, Windows comes to a crawl. The same system booted into Ubuntu is smooth.
  - marcodiego 5y ago
    I think SSD is now a requirement for smooth windows usage.
hall0ween 5y ago
What a fantastic tool.
- reginold 5y ago
  Post on funding for GIMP developers: https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers-sustainable-development/ https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers...
  - hitekker 5y ago
    > What these donations through GNOME still cannot do is funding paid development, so if that’s what you want, please fund the developers directly as explained above. GIMP project obviously welcomes the 2 types of donation, for community needs through GNOME and for paid development through the 2 crowdfundings listed. Well, that's confusing. It's unfortunate they were unable to work out an agreement with the GNOME foundation for donations. https://krita.org/en/support-us/donations/ https://krita.org/en/support-us/donations/ or https://fund.krita.org/ https://fund.krita.org/ looks way more straightforward.
alexandr1us 5y ago
I used Gimp daily. I even liked it’s UX better than photoshop. Switched to Affinity Photo when they had macOS build problems :/
ancarda 5y ago
>On macOS side, the activity is still slow, if not non-existent. > So if you want this to change, please join us! I'd like to help, though I feel like I don't know enough C, and I've never used GTK. Is it possible to get a mentor, like you can for Linux kernel development, who can help me write my first few patches?
- narraturgy 5y ago
  I've not heard of this. How does one go about finding a mentor to help them learn Linux kernel development?
  - severine 5y ago
    https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors
- prokoudine 5y ago
  A popular opinion among the team is that none of us know C at all :) So you'll fit right in! If you don't mind hanging around IRC in Europe afternoon/evening time, you can ask questions to the few devs that are there.
reginold 5y ago
For those more familiar with GIMP, can you share what you love about it? I'm assuming most people think of it as a "open-source-but-less-good photoshop". Would like to hear from fans. edit: reading this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25174686 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25174686 Also curious about PhotoGIMP, focused on a better UI
- ducktective 5y ago
  I only use its "auto white balance" feature...I don't know how to do this with imagemagick as good as GIMP.
- bloolizard 5y ago
  I don't have to pay $15/month.
  - paulryanrogers 5y ago
    This was the issue for me even before the subscription model. I realized that any FOSS I learned could be taught and given to friends and family at no cost. Photoshop Elements can fill that niche too, though paying anything for software is becoming an uphill battle with some demographics.
- hitekker 5y ago
  I like that it inspired Krita. Those folks really seem to be listening to users; working hard to build highly demanded features without navel-gazing or bike-shedding. For those who haven't seen it before, check https://krita.org/en/ https://krita.org/en/ out!
  - Andrex 5y ago
    I checked it out and could not wrap my head around Krita tbh. It feels very powerful but focused on solving many different problems, of which photo-manipulation is only one of them. I need to take another look and give it another try, I don't think I'm done with Krita yet, but it's not a replacement for Gimp yet (as far as I'm concerned.) There's some beauty in having focus.
Andrex 5y ago
> You may have noticed that GIMP 2.10.24’s macOS DMG was released months late. Even this only happened because Jehan spent days to fix the build on the remote build server, bit by bit, without any local access to a macOS machine, nor any ways to run and test himself. Anyone here want to pool some money and send this guy a Mac Mini off eBay or something?
- iamcreasy 5y ago
  I am interested.
- smackeyacky 5y ago
  Maybe send his address to Apple so they can send him a free machine. Or have Apple learn to have a system that we can build for without actually owning the physical hardware. It's not 1983 any more Apple. I am all for option (b)
  - BizarroLand 5y ago
    Could always run MacOs in a VM assuming your hardware specs were up to snuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpEOo3GJA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpEOo3GJA
MikusR 5y ago
Interesting that Gimp website doesn't have a huge Code of Conduct section, but still makes releases. While the fork that has is on "hiatus"
stoicjumbotron 5y ago
Really cool to see the development going strong. Even though more time is focused on the 2.99 release versions it is nice to see a stable version every couple of months or so.
rastafang 5y ago
v2.99+ is also pretty nice... aka Beta
qalmakka 5y ago
Is GIMP still on GTK+ 2.x? I think 3.x has been out for more then 10 years now.
- nextaccountic 5y ago
  And to think that GTK stands (or used to stand) for Gimp toolkit.
- prokoudine 5y ago
  2.10.x is based on GTK2 2.99.x (upcoming 3.0) is based on GTK3.
nazgulsenpai 5y ago
I have fond memories of the first time I used GIMP. I was 13 and had just bought RedHat Linux 5.2 from Waldenbooks and installed it on our home computer (it was called The GIMP then IIRC). I had no idea what I was doing and half of my hardware wasn't supported but I was quite comfortable poking around in The GIMP. It's really amazing to see how far GIMP has come over the years while still retaining it's familiarity. I've used it on every Linux distro I've used and on Windows ever since I've learned of it's availability on the OS. I sincerely appreciate everyone who's been involved in this project over the years.
unicornporn 5y ago
So, still no non-destructive adjustment layers, I assume? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25011401 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25011401
- prokoudine 5y ago
  We never planned them to be included in 2.10, so... :)
  - unicornporn 5y ago
    :) Is there a plan to ever include them? I check in on GIMP every other year or so to see if it's there.
    - prokoudine 5y ago
      Of couse, it's in the public roadmap: https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap We are scheduling it for version 3.2, there's no ETA though.
mrlonglong 5y ago
The only thing I use Gimp for is the ability to grab screenshots which it does exceedingly well on X11. Kudos

125 points by marcodiego 5y ago

> Very slow file dialogs: it used to happen when network devices were slow or unavailable, or pluggable devices disconnected, or even because of fake floppy drives configured in the BIOS. GLib was using an inappropriate Windows API to get some information about drives. This has been fixed! Cool! I think that bug helped me get my wife to accept an Ubuntu install instead of trying to stick with Win7 last year; it had caused her enough pain to notice, apparently. She mentioned "it doesn't grovel when I swap flash cards" specifically after the switch.

willis936 5y ago
Windows hates slow disks in general. When I've had a dying HDD just plugged in, even when that HDD is never accessed, Windows comes to a crawl. The same system booted into Ubuntu is smooth.
- marcodiego 5y ago
  I think SSD is now a requirement for smooth windows usage.

hall0ween 5y ago

What a fantastic tool.

reginold 5y ago
Post on funding for GIMP developers: https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers-sustainable-development/ https://www.gimp.org/news/2021/07/27/support-gimp-developers...
- hitekker 5y ago
  > What these donations through GNOME still cannot do is funding paid development, so if that’s what you want, please fund the developers directly as explained above. GIMP project obviously welcomes the 2 types of donation, for community needs through GNOME and for paid development through the 2 crowdfundings listed. Well, that's confusing. It's unfortunate they were unable to work out an agreement with the GNOME foundation for donations. https://krita.org/en/support-us/donations/ https://krita.org/en/support-us/donations/ or https://fund.krita.org/ https://fund.krita.org/ looks way more straightforward.

alexandr1us 5y ago

I used Gimp daily. I even liked it’s UX better than photoshop. Switched to Affinity Photo when they had macOS build problems :/

ancarda 5y ago

>On macOS side, the activity is still slow, if not non-existent. > So if you want this to change, please join us! I'd like to help, though I feel like I don't know enough C, and I've never used GTK. Is it possible to get a mentor, like you can for Linux kernel development, who can help me write my first few patches?

narraturgy 5y ago
I've not heard of this. How does one go about finding a mentor to help them learn Linux kernel development?
- severine 5y ago
  https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors
prokoudine 5y ago
A popular opinion among the team is that none of us know C at all :) So you'll fit right in! If you don't mind hanging around IRC in Europe afternoon/evening time, you can ask questions to the few devs that are there.

reginold 5y ago

For those more familiar with GIMP, can you share what you love about it? I'm assuming most people think of it as a "open-source-but-less-good photoshop". Would like to hear from fans. edit: reading this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25174686 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25174686 Also curious about PhotoGIMP, focused on a better UI

ducktective 5y ago
I only use its "auto white balance" feature...I don't know how to do this with imagemagick as good as GIMP.
bloolizard 5y ago
I don't have to pay $15/month.
- paulryanrogers 5y ago
  This was the issue for me even before the subscription model. I realized that any FOSS I learned could be taught and given to friends and family at no cost. Photoshop Elements can fill that niche too, though paying anything for software is becoming an uphill battle with some demographics.
hitekker 5y ago
I like that it inspired Krita. Those folks really seem to be listening to users; working hard to build highly demanded features without navel-gazing or bike-shedding. For those who haven't seen it before, check https://krita.org/en/ https://krita.org/en/ out!
- Andrex 5y ago
  I checked it out and could not wrap my head around Krita tbh. It feels very powerful but focused on solving many different problems, of which photo-manipulation is only one of them. I need to take another look and give it another try, I don't think I'm done with Krita yet, but it's not a replacement for Gimp yet (as far as I'm concerned.) There's some beauty in having focus.

Andrex 5y ago

> You may have noticed that GIMP 2.10.24’s macOS DMG was released months late. Even this only happened because Jehan spent days to fix the build on the remote build server, bit by bit, without any local access to a macOS machine, nor any ways to run and test himself. Anyone here want to pool some money and send this guy a Mac Mini off eBay or something?

iamcreasy 5y ago
I am interested.
smackeyacky 5y ago
Maybe send his address to Apple so they can send him a free machine. Or have Apple learn to have a system that we can build for without actually owning the physical hardware. It's not 1983 any more Apple. I am all for option (b)
- BizarroLand 5y ago
  Could always run MacOs in a VM assuming your hardware specs were up to snuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpEOo3GJA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATnpEOo3GJA

MikusR 5y ago

Interesting that Gimp website doesn't have a huge Code of Conduct section, but still makes releases. While the fork that has is on "hiatus"

stoicjumbotron 5y ago

Really cool to see the development going strong. Even though more time is focused on the 2.99 release versions it is nice to see a stable version every couple of months or so.

rastafang 5y ago

v2.99+ is also pretty nice... aka Beta

qalmakka 5y ago

Is GIMP still on GTK+ 2.x? I think 3.x has been out for more then 10 years now.

nextaccountic 5y ago
And to think that GTK stands (or used to stand) for Gimp toolkit.
prokoudine 5y ago
2.10.x is based on GTK2 2.99.x (upcoming 3.0) is based on GTK3.

nazgulsenpai 5y ago

I have fond memories of the first time I used GIMP. I was 13 and had just bought RedHat Linux 5.2 from Waldenbooks and installed it on our home computer (it was called The GIMP then IIRC). I had no idea what I was doing and half of my hardware wasn't supported but I was quite comfortable poking around in The GIMP. It's really amazing to see how far GIMP has come over the years while still retaining it's familiarity. I've used it on every Linux distro I've used and on Windows ever since I've learned of it's availability on the OS. I sincerely appreciate everyone who's been involved in this project over the years.

unicornporn 5y ago

So, still no non-destructive adjustment layers, I assume? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25011401 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25011401

prokoudine 5y ago
We never planned them to be included in 2.10, so... :)
- unicornporn 5y ago
  :) Is there a plan to ever include them? I check in on GIMP every other year or so to see if it's there.
  - prokoudine 5y ago
    Of couse, it's in the public roadmap: https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap https://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap We are scheduling it for version 3.2, there's no ETA though.

mrlonglong 5y ago

The only thing I use Gimp for is the ability to grab screenshots which it does exceedingly well on X11. Kudos