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Can someone explain to me why I would use this instead of zerotier? Are there benefits I haven't seen? EDIT: https://tailscale.com/kb/1139/tailscale-vs-zerot

Can someone explain to me why I would use this instead of zerotier? Are there benefits I haven't seen? EDIT: https://tailscale.com/kb/1139/tailscale-vs-zerotier/ https://tailscale.com/kb/1139/tailscale-vs-zerotier/ That is a very fair writeup for a competing product. Nice!

joshxyz 5y ago
Up for this. Zerotier is very easy to set up too and quite stable in our experience.
collegeburner 5y ago
I wonder, does either have "magic DNS" where I can access machines by their hostname or hostname.local or hostname.intra.mydomain? Last I checked zerotier had added a push dns feature but not on linux which is a deal breaker.
- api 5y ago
  mDNS/Bonjour will work on small-medium sized networks since multicast works.
  - sigjuice 5y ago
    I don't think it works with Tailscale even though the tailscale0 interfaces say MULTICAST.
    - api 5y ago
      Was talking about ZeroTier.
- lacrosse_tannin 5y ago
  https://github.com/zerotier/zerotier-systemd-manager https://github.com/zerotier/zerotier-systemd-manager
  - collegeburner 5y ago
    That's lit, thanks for sharing. So nice to see thats working and I can start using zerotier for real! I think this is an underappreciated convenience for people running smaller networks.
    - decrypt 5y ago
      I use Tailscale's MagicDNS. Definitely a huge convenience as I run a few services that I use on the web browser, so having a domain name instead of the IP address is a win.
    - lacrosse_tannin 5y ago
      You can turn on mdns with systemd network files too. Which works over zerotier because it's L2.
- tomjakubowski 5y ago
  Tailscale offers exactly that, and even calls it "MagicDNS"! https://tailscale.com/kb/1081/magicdns/ https://tailscale.com/kb/1081/magicdns/
- j1elo 5y ago
  Or as it turns out, the horribly ugly hostname.home.arpa, because why would you expect to have any of the more natural and obvious TLDs for home network domains: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28192247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28192247
  - 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
    I think .arpa is beautiful. I wouldnt use "home" for the subdomain though.

joshxyz 5y ago

Up for this. Zerotier is very easy to set up too and quite stable in our experience.

collegeburner 5y ago

I wonder, does either have "magic DNS" where I can access machines by their hostname or hostname.local or hostname.intra.mydomain? Last I checked zerotier had added a push dns feature but not on linux which is a deal breaker.

api 5y ago
mDNS/Bonjour will work on small-medium sized networks since multicast works.
- sigjuice 5y ago
  I don't think it works with Tailscale even though the tailscale0 interfaces say MULTICAST.
  - api 5y ago
    Was talking about ZeroTier.
lacrosse_tannin 5y ago
https://github.com/zerotier/zerotier-systemd-manager https://github.com/zerotier/zerotier-systemd-manager
- collegeburner 5y ago
  That's lit, thanks for sharing. So nice to see thats working and I can start using zerotier for real! I think this is an underappreciated convenience for people running smaller networks.
  - decrypt 5y ago
    I use Tailscale's MagicDNS. Definitely a huge convenience as I run a few services that I use on the web browser, so having a domain name instead of the IP address is a win.
  - lacrosse_tannin 5y ago
    You can turn on mdns with systemd network files too. Which works over zerotier because it's L2.
tomjakubowski 5y ago
Tailscale offers exactly that, and even calls it "MagicDNS"! https://tailscale.com/kb/1081/magicdns/ https://tailscale.com/kb/1081/magicdns/
j1elo 5y ago
Or as it turns out, the horribly ugly hostname.home.arpa, because why would you expect to have any of the more natural and obvious TLDs for home network domains: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28192247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28192247
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5y ago
  I think .arpa is beautiful. I wouldnt use "home" for the subdomain though.