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Have any of these dire predictions ever come true? https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08
by focusgroup0 5y ago
Have any of these dire predictions ever come true?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-2020-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/glaciers-national-park-202...
- kergonath 5y agoPredictions of specific events at a specific date are most often stupid. What we know is that the global average temperature is trending upwards, that Greenland is on the way to losing its ice sheet, and that some large ice sheets are sliding into the sea in Antarctica. It is certain at this point that Greenland will be ice free and that there won’t be any glacier left in Europe, but putting a specific date is foolish.
- scarecrowbob 5y agoIs that article not saying explicitly that these "dire predictions" are being demonstrated by the loss of ice in the park? Or am I misunderstanding what you are writing?
- Supermancho 5y agoTo summarize, yes.
- mikojan 5y agoSo much this. "Science" predicts there's a 17% chance you won't survive a game of Russian roulette. It's a fun game, though.
- marcellus23 5y agoHave you been to Glacier Park? I suggest you go there and take a tour. Especially look at the pictures of what the glaciers used to look like, and then look at the real glaciers now. Hard to argue against global warming then.
- swader999 5y agoSure but they've been shrinking for twenty thousand years so I don't see this as definitive.
- dralley 5y agoNot this quickly.
- marcellus23 5y agoThe pictures of what they used to look like are 50-100 years old, not 20,000. It's obvious from the rate of shrinking that they have not been shrinking at that pace since the last ice age.
- mikestew 5y agoIt's interesting that you chose that link to illustrate your point. The only thing Glacier NP did wrong was being overly-pessimistic. But anyone that has been to Glacier in, say, 2010 or prior can visit today and see quite visibly noticeable differences. I'm hardly qualified to give even a half-assed prediction, but it wouldn't surprise me much if it turns out that Glacier NP was just 10 years off in their prediction, and I certainly wouldn't expect to see much in the way of glaciers in 2040. Glacier NP isn't the only place that I've looked up and wondered, "wasn't that a lot bigger when we were here ten years ago?", either.
- gilbetron 5y agoHonestly, what would change your mind? Really? Like if the oceans were literally boiling and you could be outside without a thermal suit, would you still be saying it was just a little spike? At what point would you say, "we need to do something"?