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I have this same problem with "obscure" .net domains. My text messages are silently dropped. The only work around I found is to not include http:// http://, ju

I have this same problem with "obscure" .net domains. My text messages are silently dropped. The only work around I found is to not include http:// http://, just use the bare domain. Personally, I find this behavior of my SMS provider reprehensible.

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idiotsecant 5y ago
Is it reprehensible only when it impacts you or is it still reprehensible when it's blocking hundreds of spam messages a day you might otherwise be receiving?
- epse 5y ago
  Surely there are better ways to reduce spam than blocking entire TLDs? I also think it's the silent, unfixable nature that annoys most people. Email spam goes into your spam box, where you can still access it. You can mark email as not being spam. No such luck here
  - pletsch 5y ago
    Email providers absolutely block email, its the edge cases that make your spam folder.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      > its the edge cases that make your spam folder. Well, from their perspective. Not from any reasonable perspective; I have a few obviously-spam emails in my gmail spam folder right now, but I've had plenty of problems with gmail refusing to deliver completely legitimate email to me.
      - pasc1878 5y ago
        If there was no filtering how many spammessages would you receive? I suspect any more than you see
        d110af5ccf 5y ago
        Those aren't silently dropped though, are they? The sending server is notified I think.
        greenyoda 5y ago
        Yeah, there's a lot of spam out there. My employer's spam filtering software used to send out weekly statistics telling us what percentage of incoming e-mails (across the entire company) were spam. The spam percentage was remarkably constant from week to week: about 90% of all incoming e-mail was spam!
        thaumasiotes 5y ago
        Who cares? The only things that make it into my spam folder are obvious spam. Meanwhile, messages from people I know personally aren't even delivered at all. There is no way to characterize this as reasonable or even acceptable. Google is using metrics that are not related to whether an email should be delivered. They need to tune whatever they're doing down to the point that legitimate personal communication at least shows up in the spam folder. If a lot more spam shows up in the spam folder too, so what? A spam folder that contains mostly spam and also some misclassified personal messages is significantly better than a spam folder that contains nothing but spam because it automatically dropped your misclassified personal messages.
        lmm 5y ago
        I deliberately set GMail to the lowest level of spam filtering they'll allow, and still only receive a couple of spam messages per month at most. They need to adjust their levels.
        mtVessel 5y ago
        There are levels?
- blendergeek 5y ago
  I should receive 100% of messages from numbers I message. If my carrier wants to helpfully filter my other messages, I should be able to opt out.
techrat 5y ago
I ran into this recently even on Facebook Messenger. A friend of mine was hunting for a short domain name and I had a list of some three character .net and .org domains I recently had found that were available. Cut and pasted the list and the message wouldn't send. Narrowed it down to one. Typed just the bare domain. Wouldn't go through. (It was something incredibly benign like n17.org) Couldn't find a history on that domain name for why it would have been filtered. At least messenger responded with 'couldn't send message' but still no clue as to why... and it took me sending each domain name individually until I found the one that was failing the entire message.
- Symbiote 5y ago
  If it was N26, that's a European bank so I could see similar domains being used in phishing scms.
- aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
  >and it took me sending each domain name individually until I found the one that was failing the entire message. A true hacker would have used binary search ;)
  - afurculita 5y ago
    Or a distributed ElasticSearch

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idiotsecant 5y ago

Is it reprehensible only when it impacts you or is it still reprehensible when it's blocking hundreds of spam messages a day you might otherwise be receiving?

epse 5y ago
Surely there are better ways to reduce spam than blocking entire TLDs? I also think it's the silent, unfixable nature that annoys most people. Email spam goes into your spam box, where you can still access it. You can mark email as not being spam. No such luck here
- pletsch 5y ago
  Email providers absolutely block email, its the edge cases that make your spam folder.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    > its the edge cases that make your spam folder. Well, from their perspective. Not from any reasonable perspective; I have a few obviously-spam emails in my gmail spam folder right now, but I've had plenty of problems with gmail refusing to deliver completely legitimate email to me.
    - pasc1878 5y ago
      If there was no filtering how many spammessages would you receive? I suspect any more than you see
      - d110af5ccf 5y ago
        Those aren't silently dropped though, are they? The sending server is notified I think.
      - greenyoda 5y ago
        Yeah, there's a lot of spam out there. My employer's spam filtering software used to send out weekly statistics telling us what percentage of incoming e-mails (across the entire company) were spam. The spam percentage was remarkably constant from week to week: about 90% of all incoming e-mail was spam!
      - thaumasiotes 5y ago
        Who cares? The only things that make it into my spam folder are obvious spam. Meanwhile, messages from people I know personally aren't even delivered at all. There is no way to characterize this as reasonable or even acceptable. Google is using metrics that are not related to whether an email should be delivered. They need to tune whatever they're doing down to the point that legitimate personal communication at least shows up in the spam folder. If a lot more spam shows up in the spam folder too, so what? A spam folder that contains mostly spam and also some misclassified personal messages is significantly better than a spam folder that contains nothing but spam because it automatically dropped your misclassified personal messages.
      - lmm 5y ago
        I deliberately set GMail to the lowest level of spam filtering they'll allow, and still only receive a couple of spam messages per month at most. They need to adjust their levels.
        mtVessel 5y ago
        There are levels?
blendergeek 5y ago
I should receive 100% of messages from numbers I message. If my carrier wants to helpfully filter my other messages, I should be able to opt out.

techrat 5y ago

I ran into this recently even on Facebook Messenger. A friend of mine was hunting for a short domain name and I had a list of some three character .net and .org domains I recently had found that were available. Cut and pasted the list and the message wouldn't send. Narrowed it down to one. Typed just the bare domain. Wouldn't go through. (It was something incredibly benign like n17.org) Couldn't find a history on that domain name for why it would have been filtered. At least messenger responded with 'couldn't send message' but still no clue as to why... and it took me sending each domain name individually until I found the one that was failing the entire message.

Symbiote 5y ago
If it was N26, that's a European bank so I could see similar domains being used in phishing scms.
aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
>and it took me sending each domain name individually until I found the one that was failing the entire message. A true hacker would have used binary search ;)
- afurculita 5y ago
  Or a distributed ElasticSearch