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The other amazing thing in that tweet is that Norway uses more energy per capita than the next three countries combined? Double the USA? What is the explanati
by 0xFreebie 5y ago
The other amazing thing in that tweet is that Norway uses more energy per capita than the next three countries combined? Double the USA? What is the explanation there?
- NicoJuicy 5y ago99% is renewable from hydro power. I would say they reached their goal.
- erehweb 5y agoNorway's cold and rich?
- MBCook 5y agoCould it be a lot if electric heating instead of fossil fuels? Pure guess.
- PragmaticPulp 5y agoI was curious too. Quick Googling shows this breakdown of energy usage by sector and source: https://energifaktanorge.no/en/norsk-energibruk/energibruken-i-ulike-sektorer/ https://energifaktanorge.no/en/norsk-energibruk/energibruken... The Tweet is specifically about electricity (kWh). It appears Norway uses mostly electricity in applications where other countries might use more natural gas (heating). This is likely because Norway has plentiful clean hydroelectric electricity, so they export their natural gas instead of burning it. This inflates their electricity consumption numbers but given the mostly hydroelectric source and reduced fossil fuel burning it’s actually a net win.
- j_walter 5y agoIs there a way to differentiate clean hydro and dirty hydro? In the US the most recent "green" standards exclude hydroelectricity as renewable energy.
- eikenberry 5y agoReally? That seems dumb. Have any references for why they made this decision?
- bujak300 5y agoDumb or not, hydroelectric has its own ecological problems and as the dams near the and of life, the costs associated with that will be most likely "externalized"
- j_walter 5y agoI don't have the details, but when my company went to purchase RECs for 2021 we were told that hydro is no longer considered to be in the level of REC we were targeting (extra green something or other). So the cost for this year was much higher than 2020.
- verdverm 5y agoIf you want to be nice to the environment, damming (damning?) rivers would intuitively seem like a bad thing for wildlife.
- 1ris 5y agoThe only truly green energy is the energy you don't use. All electric is dirty to some degree. Hyrdo is cleaner than almost anything else, but not a clean as not using it at all. On top of that "clean" is not a very well defined metric. Carbon emissions are not the only thing to consider. The exclusion of hydro from "green" is of tactical nature. It's mature technology and without spectacular learning curves.
- kzrdude 5y agoNorway is high up but not the top of the per capita list that Wikipedia uses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electricity_consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_electrici... Iceland is small but has some power-hungry industries (that's the point, to produce Aluminum with cheap power), influencing their total.