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The string-pullers behind the conservative "movement" see the Evangelical Christians for what they are -- a bunch of easily fooled suckers. (Especially the non-

by Duff 15y ago

The string-pullers behind the conservative "movement" see the Evangelical Christians for what they are -- a bunch of easily fooled suckers. (Especially the non-denominational types) They are insecure, fearful people who respond to the crazy message that's being sold. One of the big motivations behind the pushing of non-denominational, stupid christianity as you get these large flocks of people attracted to the personality of the leadership of their church, but there's no doctrinal basis. The Catholics or Lutherans have their issues, but they won't allow the psychotics to retain power within their religion.

jimbokun 15y ago
The problem is, the inmates took over the asylum. It seems that the string pullers have been pushed aside and the suckers are now in charge.
- Duff 15y ago
  Not necessarily. The traditional conservative nutjob string pullers are people who own natural resources. They are getting very rich right now -- and that's about all they care about. The traditional patrician Republicans are getting owned.
- wtallis 15y ago
  Don't you think that Fox News could destroy the Tea Party almost as easily as they created it?
  - jebblue 15y ago
    Fox News and Christian bashing, it reads like Slashdot on here.
    - wtallis 15y ago
      So complaining about extremist theocrats is crass if they call themselves Christian, but civilized if they're Muslim? It doesn't matter what religion it is, it's still a destabilizing influence on what's supposed to be a democracy. And Fox News had such a clear role in making the Tea Party into a meaningful political force that commenting on the connection isn't necessarily even a political statement - it's a historical statement.
      - jebblue 15y ago
        Democracy? The US? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America
    - CamperBob 15y ago
      It's almost as if everybody from Jesus Christ to James Madison warned you against mingling religion and government, and you didn't listen.
stcredzero 15y ago
They are insecure, fearful people who respond to the crazy message that's being sold. I wonder if the powers that be have been purposefully trying to jam media with lots of spurious messages about, "The Truth Behind The Lies," most of which are structurally similar to actual such messages, but otherwise are just junk. you get these large flocks of people attracted to the personality of the leadership of their church, but there's no doctrinal basis. Really, this sort of thing isn't that unusual. In places in the US like Cincinnati, with large populations having immigrated generations ago from Ireland, Germany, and Eastern Europe, you have large numbers of people who call themselves "Cultural Catholics." Do they agree with all of the doctrine of the Catholic Church? Heck, a quite a number of them disagree with most of it. Attendance at mass is really just one way they identify their group. Given that much of the motivation for religious practice is really group affiliation, it's no wonder there's a lot of it organized around personalities.

by Duff 15y ago

jimbokun 15y ago

The problem is, the inmates took over the asylum. It seems that the string pullers have been pushed aside and the suckers are now in charge.

Duff 15y ago
Not necessarily. The traditional conservative nutjob string pullers are people who own natural resources. They are getting very rich right now -- and that's about all they care about. The traditional patrician Republicans are getting owned.
wtallis 15y ago
Don't you think that Fox News could destroy the Tea Party almost as easily as they created it?
- jebblue 15y ago
  Fox News and Christian bashing, it reads like Slashdot on here.
  - wtallis 15y ago
    So complaining about extremist theocrats is crass if they call themselves Christian, but civilized if they're Muslim? It doesn't matter what religion it is, it's still a destabilizing influence on what's supposed to be a democracy. And Fox News had such a clear role in making the Tea Party into a meaningful political force that commenting on the connection isn't necessarily even a political statement - it's a historical statement.
    - jebblue 15y ago
      Democracy? The US? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America
  - CamperBob 15y ago
    It's almost as if everybody from Jesus Christ to James Madison warned you against mingling religion and government, and you didn't listen.

stcredzero 15y ago

They are insecure, fearful people who respond to the crazy message that's being sold. I wonder if the powers that be have been purposefully trying to jam media with lots of spurious messages about, "The Truth Behind The Lies," most of which are structurally similar to actual such messages, but otherwise are just junk. you get these large flocks of people attracted to the personality of the leadership of their church, but there's no doctrinal basis. Really, this sort of thing isn't that unusual. In places in the US like Cincinnati, with large populations having immigrated generations ago from Ireland, Germany, and Eastern Europe, you have large numbers of people who call themselves "Cultural Catholics." Do they agree with all of the doctrine of the Catholic Church? Heck, a quite a number of them disagree with most of it. Attendance at mass is really just one way they identify their group. Given that much of the motivation for religious practice is really group affiliation, it's no wonder there's a lot of it organized around personalities.