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I am Gen-Z and I'm pretty sure I won't have children. They cannot grow up in a Hell we created and that they never asked to exist in. It's something I think abo

I am Gen-Z and I'm pretty sure I won't have children. They cannot grow up in a Hell we created and that they never asked to exist in. It's something I think about very often.

plandis 5y ago
What hell do you see? The world is unequivocally getting better in terms of health, food supplies, education, economics, etc. I’d recommend reading Factfulness if you want data based evidence for what I’m saying.
- whymauri 5y ago
  There's going to be global famines within my lifetime and a refugee crisis measurable in the hundreds of millions of people. I would say the death toll is unfathomable, but the IPCC makes it very clear that countries worth of people will die. The Hell I see is the Hell the science has determined is all-but certain: the next 80 years will be a series of tragic trending videos, distant, until it directly affects _you_.
  - sien 5y ago
    Can you please point out where in the IPCC report it makes it very clear that countries worth of people will die?
  - plandis 5y ago
    I distinctly remember hearing how southern Florida would be underwater by now in class in the 90s. People have been making arguments for decades about climate change and while I generally believe the trends, I don’t think it’s as clear cut as saying a country of people will die within the next 80 years. Prior climate change predictions have not been accurate enough to inspire much confidence, TBH.
- orwin 5y ago
  Ok, if we remove China, and you could be born anywhere on earth in the early 70s, randomly amongst the newborn, or today (again, randomly). Would you choose today?
  - plandis 5y ago
    Today, absolutely. The poor parts of the world have pretty much all made gains over the ~50 years. Take a look here: https://ourworldindata.org https://ourworldindata.org or (and I feel like a shill; this is my third or fourth time mentioning it) pick up Factfulness for a data driven answer for why you too should pick today when asked this question.

I am Gen-Z and I'm pretty sure I won't have children. They cannot grow up in a Hell we created and that they never asked to exist in. It's something I think about very often.

plandis 5y ago

What hell do you see? The world is unequivocally getting better in terms of health, food supplies, education, economics, etc. I’d recommend reading Factfulness if you want data based evidence for what I’m saying.

whymauri 5y ago
There's going to be global famines within my lifetime and a refugee crisis measurable in the hundreds of millions of people. I would say the death toll is unfathomable, but the IPCC makes it very clear that countries worth of people will die. The Hell I see is the Hell the science has determined is all-but certain: the next 80 years will be a series of tragic trending videos, distant, until it directly affects _you_.
- sien 5y ago
  Can you please point out where in the IPCC report it makes it very clear that countries worth of people will die?
- plandis 5y ago
  I distinctly remember hearing how southern Florida would be underwater by now in class in the 90s. People have been making arguments for decades about climate change and while I generally believe the trends, I don’t think it’s as clear cut as saying a country of people will die within the next 80 years. Prior climate change predictions have not been accurate enough to inspire much confidence, TBH.
orwin 5y ago
Ok, if we remove China, and you could be born anywhere on earth in the early 70s, randomly amongst the newborn, or today (again, randomly). Would you choose today?
- plandis 5y ago
  Today, absolutely. The poor parts of the world have pretty much all made gains over the ~50 years. Take a look here: https://ourworldindata.org https://ourworldindata.org or (and I feel like a shill; this is my third or fourth time mentioning it) pick up Factfulness for a data driven answer for why you too should pick today when asked this question.