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Despite Bobby Allyn's insistence on saying he lied; he isn't reporting any evidence of it. Misleading, maybe, though one has to follow to be led. Evasive, absol

by 015a 5y ago

Despite Bobby Allyn's insistence on saying he lied; he isn't reporting any evidence of it. Misleading, maybe, though one has to follow to be led. Evasive, absolutely. That's not lying. Alright, maybe his statement that he fixed old cars "for a living" could fade into being called a lie, or at least stated with intent to mislead. It really feels like, some third-rate reporter got angry about being hoodwinked, and decided to get back at him by writing a puffy hit-piece. Really ugly look for NPR; this isn't news or even noteworthy.

joe_the_user 5y ago
So you're saying this guy "hoodwinked" the reporter but didn't lie? Maybe this guy only misdirected. What going on is significant. In fact, that changes nothing. The story is that wealthy and powerful person showed up at the Holmes trial and made an effort to misdirect reporters. Whether he made overt factual untruths is irrelevant unless you the logic of a third grader.
quantified 5y ago
Isn’t telling someone your name is Hanson when it’s not lying?
csilverman 5y ago
It’s noteworthy because it’s bizarre behavior and he’s related to her. The question is how noteworthy. I tend to doubt there’s any sinister plot afoot here, or that it’ll have any impact on the trial. He probably wanted to attend the trial, knows she’s toxic, and was worried that any association with her might affect his businesses. But yeah, I think her father-in-law appearing at the trial in a flimsy disguise and giving ham-fistedly evasive responses is definitely worth a mention, even if it’s not legally actionable or related to the trial itself.
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  "It’s noteworthy because it’s bizarre behavior and he’s related to her." It's not noteworthy because it's bizarre behavior. It is specifically relevant behavior. This entire case is only about determining if she is guilty of engaging in exactly this behavior. We should all thank the guy for providing such a great example of why not to believe any story her and her lawyers cook up.

by 015a 5y ago

joe_the_user 5y ago

So you're saying this guy "hoodwinked" the reporter but didn't lie? Maybe this guy only misdirected. What going on is significant. In fact, that changes nothing. The story is that wealthy and powerful person showed up at the Holmes trial and made an effort to misdirect reporters. Whether he made overt factual untruths is irrelevant unless you the logic of a third grader.

quantified 5y ago

Isn’t telling someone your name is Hanson when it’s not lying?

csilverman 5y ago

It’s noteworthy because it’s bizarre behavior and he’s related to her. The question is how noteworthy. I tend to doubt there’s any sinister plot afoot here, or that it’ll have any impact on the trial. He probably wanted to attend the trial, knows she’s toxic, and was worried that any association with her might affect his businesses. But yeah, I think her father-in-law appearing at the trial in a flimsy disguise and giving ham-fistedly evasive responses is definitely worth a mention, even if it’s not legally actionable or related to the trial itself.

Brian_K_White 5y ago
"It’s noteworthy because it’s bizarre behavior and he’s related to her." It's not noteworthy because it's bizarre behavior. It is specifically relevant behavior. This entire case is only about determining if she is guilty of engaging in exactly this behavior. We should all thank the guy for providing such a great example of why not to believe any story her and her lawyers cook up.