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In the future, do some research into whose service you employ beforehand. You should not be surprised that you might get in trouble one way or another for empl

In the future, do some research into whose service you employ beforehand. You should not be surprised that you might get in trouble one way or another for employing the services of neo-nazis.

rvz 5y ago
You still have some cleaning to-do on YouTube, since they are still hosting neo-nazi rock band videos on there. Does that mean everyone deserves to get their YouTube accounts hacked because of some bad videos on someones platform?
- darnfish 5y ago
  I think it's different when a service offers their services to these groups with open arms, v.s. a company like Google who actively tries to take down that kind of content
  - lugged 5y ago
    Big fash, ok, little fash bad. Gotcha.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  Yes, Youtube specifically is a big problem.
SuoDuanDao 5y ago
That allegation is made so often a lot of people just tune it out. How am I supposed to know who's actually a neo nazi and who just annoyed the wrong liar?
- zamadatix 5y ago
  That's the goal of disinformation. You don't have to be convinced of the face value of a claim to fall to it you just have to be convinced it's too much work to figure out or too uncertain to call one way or the other. In the case of Epik it's not exactly a mystery "is this one guy a liar" case though. Here are the opening paragraphs of Wikipedia (prior to this hack): > Epik is an American domain registrar and web hosting company known for providing services to websites that host far-right, neo-Nazi, and other extremist content. It has been described as a haven for the far-right because of its willingness to provide services to far-right websites that have been denied service by other Internet service providers.[1][7] > Some of Epik's notable clients have included social network Gab, neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, and the imageboard website 8chan.[8] In 2021, the Parler social network moved its domain registration to Epik when it was denied hosting and other web services after it was used to help plan the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol.[9] Epik has also provided hosting and registrar services to Patriots.win, formerly TheDonald.win, an independent far-right forum that has served as the successor for the r/The_Donald subreddit that was banned in June 2020.[10][11][12]" The rest of the article goes on with details about each of those and more, including many other companies terminating services to Epik as a result. Particularly after the El Paso shooting.
- user-the-name 5y ago
  Maybe that is a problem with you, and not with anyone else. If you are uninterested in listening, that is on you.
h_anna_h 5y ago
And then you move to a service that does not accept nazis that gets hacked by nazis and then you end up being harassed... > You should not be surprised that you might get in trouble one way or another for employing the services of neo-nazis. Would you say the same if someone poisoned (does not need to be fatal) cokecola bottles for their anti-union policies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co. Or if IBM employees were doxxed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust Or if github users/employees were doxxed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#ICE_contract https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#ICE_contract

In the future, do some research into whose service you employ beforehand. You should not be surprised that you might get in trouble one way or another for employing the services of neo-nazis.

rvz 5y ago

You still have some cleaning to-do on YouTube, since they are still hosting neo-nazi rock band videos on there. Does that mean everyone deserves to get their YouTube accounts hacked because of some bad videos on someones platform?

darnfish 5y ago
I think it's different when a service offers their services to these groups with open arms, v.s. a company like Google who actively tries to take down that kind of content
- lugged 5y ago
  Big fash, ok, little fash bad. Gotcha.
user-the-name 5y ago
Yes, Youtube specifically is a big problem.

SuoDuanDao 5y ago

That allegation is made so often a lot of people just tune it out. How am I supposed to know who's actually a neo nazi and who just annoyed the wrong liar?

zamadatix 5y ago
That's the goal of disinformation. You don't have to be convinced of the face value of a claim to fall to it you just have to be convinced it's too much work to figure out or too uncertain to call one way or the other. In the case of Epik it's not exactly a mystery "is this one guy a liar" case though. Here are the opening paragraphs of Wikipedia (prior to this hack): > Epik is an American domain registrar and web hosting company known for providing services to websites that host far-right, neo-Nazi, and other extremist content. It has been described as a haven for the far-right because of its willingness to provide services to far-right websites that have been denied service by other Internet service providers.[1][7] > Some of Epik's notable clients have included social network Gab, neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, and the imageboard website 8chan.[8] In 2021, the Parler social network moved its domain registration to Epik when it was denied hosting and other web services after it was used to help plan the 2021 storming of the U.S. Capitol.[9] Epik has also provided hosting and registrar services to Patriots.win, formerly TheDonald.win, an independent far-right forum that has served as the successor for the r/The_Donald subreddit that was banned in June 2020.[10][11][12]" The rest of the article goes on with details about each of those and more, including many other companies terminating services to Epik as a result. Particularly after the El Paso shooting.
user-the-name 5y ago
Maybe that is a problem with you, and not with anyone else. If you are uninterested in listening, that is on you.

h_anna_h 5y ago

And then you move to a service that does not accept nazis that gets hacked by nazis and then you end up being harassed... > You should not be surprised that you might get in trouble one way or another for employing the services of neo-nazis. Would you say the same if someone poisoned (does not need to be fatal) cokecola bottles for their anti-union policies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinaltrainal_v._Coca-Cola_Co. Or if IBM employees were doxxed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust Or if github users/employees were doxxed? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#ICE_contract https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GitHub#ICE_contract