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“Unskilled labor” is labor that almost anyone can do, therefore it is worth less.

by AuryGlenz 5y ago

black_13 5y ago
And anyone can do javascript.
- Jensson 5y ago
  Companies wouldn't pay people who can do javascript six figure salaries if anyone could do javascript. Even if anyone could be trained to do javascript, that training still limits who you can hire to do the work today. Unskilled jobs means they require near zero training to do it, so a random person off the streets would deliver value within hours of starting.
  - black_13 5y ago
    Look i see constant arguments from how some guy cant do his start up without h1b labor. Here is what sets the limits : a fucking law. Frankly if it was possible and there would be slaves doind software development the only thing that keeps that from happening is the rule of law.
    - Jensson 5y ago
      Why would they hire H1B when they could just go to the nearest McDonalds and poach the cashiers to write javascript? It isn't like the cashiers need a visa to work in USA. The reason of course is that those cashiers can't write javascript. Meaning, not everyone can write javascript, you have to admit it requires at least a bit of training so it isn't an unskilled job. Edit: And yes, I agree, company owners are very greedy. They wouldn't pay that much money to get people to write Javascript unless they had to. If they could pay minimum wage and still get code written they would. Hence we must conclude that you can't just take anyone and make them write javascript, since if you could companies would already do that. Hence javascript is not unskilled labor as you suggested before. Every job that pays more than minimum wage is thanks to labor shortage in that sector, if there isn't a labor shortage it means that companies doesn't have to compete for labor so there is no reason to pay more than minimum wage.

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“Unskilled labor” is labor that almost anyone can do, therefore it is worth less.

by AuryGlenz 5y ago

“Unskilled labor” is labor that almost anyone can do, therefore it is worth less.

black_13 5y ago
And anyone can do javascript.
- Jensson 5y ago
  Companies wouldn't pay people who can do javascript six figure salaries if anyone could do javascript. Even if anyone could be trained to do javascript, that training still limits who you can hire to do the work today. Unskilled jobs means they require near zero training to do it, so a random person off the streets would deliver value within hours of starting.
  - black_13 5y ago
    Look i see constant arguments from how some guy cant do his start up without h1b labor. Here is what sets the limits : a fucking law. Frankly if it was possible and there would be slaves doind software development the only thing that keeps that from happening is the rule of law.
    - Jensson 5y ago
      Why would they hire H1B when they could just go to the nearest McDonalds and poach the cashiers to write javascript? It isn't like the cashiers need a visa to work in USA. The reason of course is that those cashiers can't write javascript. Meaning, not everyone can write javascript, you have to admit it requires at least a bit of training so it isn't an unskilled job. Edit: And yes, I agree, company owners are very greedy. They wouldn't pay that much money to get people to write Javascript unless they had to. If they could pay minimum wage and still get code written they would. Hence we must conclude that you can't just take anyone and make them write javascript, since if you could companies would already do that. Hence javascript is not unskilled labor as you suggested before. Every job that pays more than minimum wage is thanks to labor shortage in that sector, if there isn't a labor shortage it means that companies doesn't have to compete for labor so there is no reason to pay more than minimum wage.