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I have to ask: If it wasn't for the freedom to share information, as is given by the Constitution, why'd you pick Epik? Their prices aren't particularly good, t
by caslon 5y ago
I have to ask: If it wasn't for the freedom to share information, as is given by the Constitution, why'd you pick Epik? Their prices aren't particularly good, they don't really advertise themselves as having any features other registrars don't have, and don't really seem to have a lot going for them. They aren't even acknowledging the fact that they got hacked:
https://twitter.com/robmonster/status/1437543353357328389 https://twitter.com/robmonster/status/1437543353357328389
It sucks what happened to you, but the only thing Epik sold themselves with is the same freedom that these people are utilizing.
- RIMR 5y agoThey either are extremely privacy and freedom oriented and chose Epik with a false belief that they would uphold their privacy and freedom of speech. Or they run websites that contain content that would get them removed from most mainstream platforms, and likely would earn them an unforgiving response here should they share those sites. I am inclined to believe it is the latter, as that is literally the selling point of Epik's services: That your violent or extremist rhetoric won't get your terminated from the service.
- shiftpgdn 5y agoJust because someone does not censor other does not make them a neo-nazi or white supremacist. This is an ideological difference.
- user-the-name 5y agoNot in general. But in this specific case? They are neo-nazis and white supremacists.
- rvz 5y agoThat doesn't make it any right to involve leaking the personal information of innocent users using the platform because they found that Epik was offering WHOIS privacy cheaper than another registrar. (GoDaddy) The ones who hacked Epik are just as bad as the 'neo-nazis' and 'white supremacists' you speak of.
- techrat 5y agoOh no! Why won't somebody think about the poor neo nazis and white supremacists posting violent content and murder lists?! Those poor, poor oppressed oppressors! Their right to harm others is being infringed upon!
- rvz 5y agoWhy are you so obsessed with accusing everyone in this thread as a nazi or a white supremacist? So 'notadev' is a nazi because they chose Epik? With what evidence suggests that? > Oh no! Why won't somebody think about the poor neo nazis and white supremacists posting violent content and murder lists?! I assume you have evidence of this given your long obsession with Nazis in this thread. Did you forget to report these 'specific neo nazis' that posted this or did you just leave them online?
- jakelazaroff 5y ago> The ones who hacked Epik are just as bad as the 'neo-nazis' and 'white supremacists' you speak of. You don’t see a moral difference between people who hacked a company’s customer list, and people who want to very literally murder my family and me? Those sound the same to you?
- rvz 5y agoYou can just report whatever 'illegal' content you find that is hosted on a private company's website and they will take it down such illegal content since if they are found to hosting it, they're whole service can be taken down. Assuming you have this evidence, did you just leave them online and then complain here and did nothing? Maybe being obsessed around chasing Nazis everywhere and directly approaching them yourself comes with such risks and consequences which you should leave all to the authorities to deal with rather than using extreme illegal methods to attack any sort of service in the name of this so-called 'fascism' which at this point has become meaningless.
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- mplewis 5y agoSure. But Rob Monster is an openly anti-Semitic neo-Nazi.
- shiftpgdn 5y agoI googled this and I literally can not find anything he's done or said that is openly anti-semitic other than allowing anyone on his platform. Would he be a terrorist sympathizer for allowing ISIS or Alqueda on his platform?
- user-the-name 5y agoDid he allow them on? Because I don't think he would, because they are muslims, and he is a white supremacist.
- h_anna_h 5y agoI do not know if he did but we do know that cloudflare for example did, along with harassment groups like kiwifarms. Are they terrorist and harasser sympathizers? It's funny because both Epik and Cloudflare used to host 8chan and the dailystormer. They are more similar than people think.
- fooey 5y agoWikipedia has a solid article on him if you're interested in documentation of the things he says and supports. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster#Views https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster#Views
- notadev 5y agoWhy would you be inclined to believe the latter? I don’t host anything on Epik, just use them as a registrar because they offered free Whois privacy. None of the domains I have are anything political or offensive in any way. I’m innocent collateral damage as are many others I’m sure.
- techrat 5y agoMany registrars offer free Whois Privacy by default. Even Google Domains.
- notadev 5y agoThey offered free Whois privacy. I was paying for it annually with GoDaddy so I moved.
- caslon 5y agoPretty much every company has been offering it for free for the past six years because of the GDPR. Worth keeping in mind in the future; never use a registrar that's more sketchy than normal.
- lrae 5y ago> Their prices aren't particularly good They have the biggest "real" (as in for existing customers and without other limitations) promo / "happy hour" thread on the biggest domain name board: https://www.namepros.com/threads/epik-com-promo-deals-and-happy-hour-mega-thread.1148974/ https://www.namepros.com/threads/epik-com-promo-deals-and-ha... - where they regularly had pretty good transfer in prices.