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iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max
- rvz 5y agoWake me up when they have a hole punched front-facing camera instead of that ugly notch on both of those devices.
- HPsquared 5y agoProbably not going away any time soon, it's almost a trademark at this point.
- Spivak 5y agoThe notch works pretty well tbh. It disappears after like 2 minutes of using it and on iOS was just dead space anyway.
- encoderer 5y agoJon Prosser leaked a hole punch design for next year. It’s always remarkable to me when I remember on these launch days that Apple probably has a working beta 14, proof of concept 15 and somebody working on 16. What a pipeline.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoI wonder how big is the team that makes the small and irrelevant design changes that allow iPhone connoisseurs to distinguish what exact model you're using.
- xoa 5y agoFace ID is extremely useful, and the real depth scanning capability makes it better. It's your right to elevate subjective aesthetics over functionality of course, but a significant number of us do not agree. If Apple is able to do the IR scanning, cameras and so on through the display in the future I'm sure they will take advantage of it, but a hole punch is not it. And short of that it's not clear what a flat out superior biometric identification system would be feasible in the near future (a return of Touch ID in-screen say would be complementary, not exclusive) in a bar form factor? Some sort of short range penetrating scanner that can read bone structure in your hand or something, if that's possible? Just hard to think of many degrees of freedom there, we have lots of other attributes to our bodies which represent useful bits of entropy, but not ones that are easy, fast, convenient and low power to gather from a bar in your hand. Wearable displays of course could jump straight to retina scanning, but that doesn't help phones. So even though I do expect the iPhone form factor to get disrupted by wearables, I don't really see Face ID ceasing to be important for the iPhone itself for a while, or Apple stepping backwards the 3D scanner. So the notch will probably stay until/unless they can do it through the display or something genuinely surprising/cool becomes available. Would be very cool if others who follow the field more closely can point to some possibilities I'm missing though.
- Spooky23 5y agoThey really picked the wrong time to roll it out though. R Typing my complex password multiple times a day when I wear a mask is a bummer.
- xoa 5y agoI wear a respirator instead and Face ID works fine through it, so that hasn't been a problem for me. I certainly understand it's been a common complaint however, and I'd fully support Apple adding in-screen Touch ID. I just don't think that'd be a good replacement for Face ID, which all security discussions aside simply serves use cases (like wearing gloves) that Touch ID doesn't even as Touch ID serves cases that Face ID doesn't. It'd be better to have both. Kind of too bad Apple couldn't have at least attempted to help more people out purely in software though. I use a complex password along with Face ID as well, but there isn't any inherent reason they couldn't have more of a step function there: complex master password for performing sensitive functions, then a PIN fallback for Face ID, then Face ID like normal. Complex master required for trusting devices, upgrades, installing profiles, etc, PIN/biometric for typical out-and-about functionality.
- FullyFunctional 5y agoIt's not about aesthetics, it's a pita to view contents in landscape and have the notch cut a hole in it. I keep having to rotate my phone the get it on the right side. I hate the notch (but I'm also not a fan of rounded corners).
- snailmailman 5y agoI’m curious- What content are you watching that the notch cuts into? 16:9 and 16:10 content that I watch on YouTube isn’t cropped by the notch unless you zoom into it fully, but then it’d also cropped on the corners, and the long edges as well. The screen is too long for most landscape content and the notch hides perfectly in the black bars in those instances.
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- usui 5y agoI would much prefer if the front-facing camera would just be embedded into the screen, so we can achieve near-bezel-less screens. I'm probably not their target audience if they want to keep all that camera power for selfie-taking such that it can't be embedded into the screen.
- philliphaydon 5y agoWhen the iPhone first introduced the notch I hated it, HATED!!! I ended up on the iPhone 11 Pro Max due to the low light photo function to take photos of my daughter, and after a day never noticed it again. I think I've come across 1 game which didn't optimize for it and caused it to overlap on the game controls, but apart from that it's not noticeable. I think we make a lot of fuss over silly design things like this which are non-issues.
- Spooky23 5y agoI think it’s more of a big deal because Apple people used to rag on Android devices that did it in the past pretty hard. IMO they should have notched the bottom for a fingerprint sensor.
- philliphaydon 5y agoI must have missed that hate :D I only started following the apple events from iPhone 11.
- djrogers 5y ago>. I think it’s more of a big deal because Apple people used to rag on Android devices that did it in the past pretty hard. That’s sounds like some heavy-duty retconnning there - which Android phones are you referring to and when did Apple rag on them ‘pretty hard’?
- Ambroos 5y agoThe camera bump on bump on bump design is really disappointing to see. There must have been a better way to deal with this surely? I can only imagine all the dust and grime build-up in all those ridges, especially in between the three cameras.
- tpmx 5y agoCould have made the back flat and used the extra volume for batteries.
- Aloha 5y agoI've had one of those designs for several years now, less than you think, I clean my phone once every couple months, and I have never found a bunch of grime of build up there.
- philliphaydon 5y agoI personally don't mind the bump because it disappears with the case so it's never bothered me.
- goodcjw2 5y agoIn my personal uses, It's actually not too bad once put on a case.
- minimaxir 5y agoA peculiar difference between the Pro and non-Pro versions is the A15 GPU: the Pro has a 5-core GPU, and non-Pro has a 4-core GPU. Besides that, this is as rumored, except without the Always On Display.
- bredren 5y agoThis would be the first evidence of a single "series" of Apple Silicon with variant GPU cores. With a new M-series expected in an updated set of MBPs, presumably they are based on A15 and have even more cores?
- easton 5y agoThe M1 has it too, you can get a MacBook Air with a 7 or 8 core GPU.
- hedgehog 5y agoProbably the same dies with one GPU core disabled. My guess is the GPU cores are large (== relatively likely to have a defect) and also easy to isolate. Apple has done the same thing for previous processors and it's pretty common practice across the industry. Eventually yields will go up and they might either make a pure 4-core version for lower end products or they'll just remove that from the line entirely.
- jw1224 5y agoI was really impressed by the Cinematic Mode “whodunnit” video… In a different context, I’d never have guessed it was filmed on iPhone.
- meepmorp 5y agoObviously they edited the video and made careful shots to show off the feature in the best light, but it was really impressive. If nothing else, it made me curious to see it work in person.
- KMnO4 5y agoThey briefly mentioned “choose focus after the shot”, so I imagine there will be pretty good UX for editing on-device.
- mkinsella 5y agoDoesn't seem like a big enough improvement over the 12 to warrant the price difference? I'm on the iPhone X and will likely get the 12.
- encoderer 5y agoSame. 14 looks like it’s the next gen design. I have had an X since the day it shipped and the fact that its still a decent phone for daily use is a testament to how much of a leap it was at the time.
- Slow_Hand 5y agoI wonder how far back customer satisfaction is for older models. I'm still rocking my trusty 8 Plus and it suits my everyday needs just fine and works perfectly, with a slightly degraded battery life. I'm not gaming or shooting movies with it and so haven't seen any need to upgrade for quite a long time.
- asciimov 5y agoIn my household we still love and use the iPhone SE from 2016. The only issue we have with them is battery life. I replaced mine myself, and while it is better than what it had been, the battery still isn't as good as when it was new. I was hoping to like the updates enough to justify the upgrade at this point, looks like I'll be waiting another year. If I upgrade any of the phones in my house it will be my partners, who will want a 12 because they can get one in purple. (Seriously Apple, why not may a 13 in purple, you'd get more money out of me that way)
- zepto 5y agoI’m also on the X and am considering the 13 pro. Mostly because I want it to feel faster for longer. I think it’s a pretty subjective call.
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- haswell 5y agoVery happy to see ProMotion is there, and the camera advances are impressive/useful.
- ssijak 5y agoVideo recording features look really nice, not that most of us need that. I was mostly interested in A15 chip data, as a hint on what can I expect from the new laptops. But as usual, they just provide some random percentages comparing the chip to "leading competitor" or something. So we still need to wait and see.
- joakleaf 5y agoThere was a little bit of information on the chip, but not much: A13: 8.5 billion transistors. A14: 11.8 billion transistors. A15: 15 billion transistors. A13 neural engine: 5 trillion operations / sec. A14 neural engine: 11 trillion operations / sec. A15 neural engine: 15 trillion operations / sec. A13: 4 core GPU. A14: 4 core GPU. A15: 5 core GPU.
- teruakohatu 5y agoStill lightning not USB-C. I long for the day I only need a USB-C charger/cable.
- philliphaydon 5y agoI really think Apple is trying to force us into this mag-safe charger instead of switching to USB-C. :( I seem to only have USB-C cables now... EXCEPT for the iPhone.
- kashura 5y agoBaffling considering that they are putting USB-C in ipads.
- SirensOfTitan 5y agoWhat a disappointing event: a bunch of iterative updates. I also find it absolutely incredible that Apple decided to mention privacy during the event. I think we're progressing into Apple's Ballmer era, if we weren't there already.
- ksml 5y agoThey seemed like strong iterative updates to me? I also appreciate all speech recognition being done on-device
- axg11 5y agoWhat would you improve about the iPhone or iPad? I think these products are just mature and there is very little to improve other than iterative updates. The true test of whether Apple has entered their Ballmer era will be if they fail to launch a new product category in the next 2-3 years.
- sildur 5y ago- USB-c port - Act as wireless charger - Dual SIM - Under-screen fingerprint reader - Maybe FM radio - Headphones socket
- axg11 5y agoThese are all great iterative features, but no more than that.
- danieldk 5y ago- Dual SIM iPhones are Dual SIM. You can use a physical SIM + and eSIM. I have used my iPhone with two different plans/phone numbers for a while.
- dan-robertson 5y agoIn China they sell iPhones that take two physical SIM cards.
- Moxdi 5y agoLook! The same phone with better camera! Great, brb going to throw my old one away and buy this one
- FullyFunctional 5y agoiPhones are increasingly cameras the other features, of which the actual "phone" part is almost trivially unimportant. Personally I'm actually happy about these updates (I've skipped the last many generations) and I really hoped for and got a tele zoom. Only thing I would have liked different was a slightly bigger phone (for a bigger display).
- KMnO4 5y agoDon’t forget you’re on a tech-enthusiast forum. Your “old phone” is most likely less than three years old. My mother will be thrilled with the new camera, coming from her iPhone 6.
- skunkworker 5y agoI've got a XS and I think I'll finally upgrade, the 10-120hz honestly excites me the most, especially for scrolling content.
- Solstinox 5y agoI don’t want to rob you of your excitement for this feature. Just that scrolling through these comments, it made me smile that the iPhone is now so mature that we get excited about the frames per second while scrolling. Maybe it reflects how much we enjoy the zero-latency analog world.
- arthurcolle 5y agoThe notch is such a travesty. The fact that they removed landscape mode on the home screen after the iPhone 6S Plus is an affront to any good design principles. I think it is deliberate so you have to buy an iPad if you want to use it like a mini computer. Beyond disappointing.
- markb139 5y agoMy iPhone 8 Plus has landscape mode
- yellow_lead 5y ago"on the home screen"?
- Tagbert 5y agoI don’t recall ever having landscape orientation on the phone home screen.
- arthurcolle 5y agoIt existed on the Plus models. I have an iPhone 6S Plus right next to me that I have rotated home screen icons.
- kilroy123 5y agoI agree and apparently it's finally being removed in on the 14.
- arthurcolle 5y agoCome again? Not sure I fully understand.
- z2trillion 5y agothe iphone 14 is rumored to be notch-less.
- flyinglizard 5y agoThis is pretty much a camera ad. Interesting how this one use case eclipses anything else.
- Lammy 5y agoMakes it extra curious why this phone and iOS 15 scanning all your photos were supposed to roll out together
- jjcm 5y agoOne thing I found curious from the event was that they added a "find my" feature to the mag wallet. They advertised it by saying something along the lines of "find where your wallet was last detached". This was likely a response to just how bad the magnetic attachment for these wallets was. It just slides off when you put your phone in your pocket. You can see how much these slide around in these clips: Low grip strength: https://youtu.be/HNX1v-mJmEA?t=141 https://youtu.be/HNX1v-mJmEA?t=141 Coming off when pocketing: https://youtu.be/HNX1v-mJmEA?t=225 https://youtu.be/HNX1v-mJmEA?t=225
- minimaxir 5y agoThat was one of the more curious announcements. Presumably Apple will release a new SKU that has an integrated AirTag? EDIT: Yes they did add a new SKU. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM0Q3ZM/A/iphone-leather-wallet-with-magsafe-golden-brown https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MM0Q3ZM/A/iphone-leather-... As replies note, there's no new tech, just tracks last detached. Weird footnote: Requires iPhone Leather Wallet with MagSafe and iPhone 12 or later with Find My enabled in iOS 15. Not supported on Clear Case with MagSafe.
- rtkwe 5y agoNo from saying “last detached” I’m betting it’s just adding a hook into the phone that logs the current location each time the wallet is removed from the back of the phone. There’s really not space in the current design of the wallet that you could squeeze an AirTag into.
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- wingspar 5y agoI conclude there’s no airtag-tech in the wallet. If there were they would have said something like ‘find my will locate your wallet’ But they specifically say the LAST place it disconnected from your phone. So they must be tracking when it disconnects and updating find my…
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- wellthisisgreat 5y agoWhy wouldn’t they add Pencil support to iPhones, come on.
- rtkwe 5y agoThey’d need to come up with a new pairing mechanism. Currently you can only pair them by either plugging them in (the gen 1 method) or using the magnetic charging spot on the side of the later generation iPad Pros. AFIAK there’s no other way to put the Pencils into a pairing state that would work with phones for the newer ones so you’d be selling people more of the Gen 1 devices which I bet they’re looking to obsolete ASAP.
- ASalazarMX 5y agoIf only they had solved this pairing problem elsewhere, maybe like the airpods.
- rtkwe 5y agoWhat’s the put “it in the case” equivalent action for an Apple Pencil? There’s no a need for the secondary battery in the pencils because they’re large enough to have a sizable battery built in. Not saying it’s an impossible problem but it would need a button that doesn’t exist on current pencils. They could in theory use the older gen 1 pencils but then you’d be bifurcating the pencil branding forcing them to continue making the older pencils with the built in Lightning (which would be even less convenient on a phone since the pencils are longer than the phones). Everyone brought up the issue of losing the pencil with the old version because there was no way to keep them together outside of a case with an extra nub built in. The pencil form factor just isn’t great for phones. It just barely works on devices like the Note line of phones because it’s tiny and has a built in slot to not lose it.
- ASalazarMX 5y ago> What’s the put “it in the case” equivalent action for an Apple Pencil? The same as the airpods: stop using it and wait a few minutes for a usable charge.
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- drewg123 5y agoI wish they'd have gone to USB-C for charging. I'm a recent (2 years ago) convert to iPhone and don't have a lightning ecosystem built up. Everything else in my life uses USB-C. Life would be so much simpler if they'd just convert the iPhone. Or even offer separate skews, where one had USB-C
- sbaildon 5y agoThere's barely a lightning ecosystem left now—the only remaining products are the entry-level iPad, AirPods {,Pro, Max}, and the computer peripherals.
- dont__panic 5y agoAirPods using lightning is one of the more obnoxious Apple decisions in the last 5 years or so. Even long after the iPhone has moved on to USB-C or no port at all, your AirPods Max will still force you to charge with Lightning. I guess it's a good thing that everybody's AirPods and AirPods Pro are going to be dead in a couple of years, so if they update them to use USB-C they won't hang around too long. Thanks, poor battery longevity!
- taylodl 5y agoApple took a lot of grief for retiring the 30 pin connector and USB-C didn't yet exist when they did so. At the time I recall Apple saying they would support Lightning for 10 years. That was 9 years ago. It makes sense that the AirPods would use the same connector as the iPhone - imagine the mess that would be if they didn't! Anyway, since next year is the 10 year anniversary of switching to Lightning I suspect that's when they're going to transition all the iDevices (except Watch) to USB-C.
- massysett 5y agoiDevices won’t go USB-C, they’ll go straight to all wireless. No point in having just one or two years of iPhone on USB-C before they go wireless.
- Zaheer 5y agoGreat to see the Mini still lives: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13mini,iphone13pro,iphone13 https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone13mini...
- SynasterBeiter 5y agoNot having Bluetooth 5.2 and still having Bluetooth 5.0 is a shame. I am definitely looking forward to Bluetooth LE Audio.
- brtknr 5y agoI wonder how much the fear of 13 is going to impact sales https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskaidekaphobia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskaidekaphobia
- davuinci 5y agoMy guess is that there would be an even more negative impact on sales if they would call it 12s. Lots of consumers would assume that only minor improvements were made and would choose not to upgrade.
- nerfhammer 5y agoThose consumers would be right though, no?
- cgy1 5y agoNow I wonder if the iPhone 4 had reduced sales in China/Asian countries.
- sunkenvicar 5y agoThe iPhone Pro series gave me trypophobia. I wonder if the spooky 3 camera arrangement boosts sales of the non-Pro series.
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- speedgoose 5y agoAs always with the iPhone specs, Apple lists every detail such as the list of audio codecs or the document types supported in the Mail application, but "forgets" to mention the RAM. So I guess it's not much RAM as always.
- gls2ro 5y agoWhy does the RAM matters? I never had an issue with an application on iPhone due to RAM nor saw any reference on App Store for an app requiring at least X ram.
- speedgoose 5y agoI would say RAM matters more than many other details in the specs page. You never experienced Safari reloading your web pages after switching between apps for example?
- ssijak 5y agoWhen have you felt that you are lacking RAM on an iPhone?
- ASalazarMX 5y agoWhen background apps close on its own to save RAM, for example. It depends on how hungry is the next app you open.
- nicce 5y agoiPhones work very differently when compared to Android. By default, there really aren’t backgroud apps, iOS forces their usage to minimum. iOS has own thread for UI rendering and everything on background is not prioritized.
- weikju 5y agoAnd yet when you leave Safari (or any other browser) and use other apps and come back, and have your tab(s) reload and lose your position in a long webpage or have to re-fill a form... sometimes happens even after 10 seconds... then you wish you had more RAM
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- tyingq 5y agoWhere's that? I can't find that on the linked page, and Google doesn't return anything obvious. Ahh: Found it. It's Sensor-Shift not SensorShip.
- kklisura 5y agoIt's sensor-shift not SensorShip. Edit: https://youtu.be/EvGOlAkLSLw?t=2920 https://youtu.be/EvGOlAkLSLw?t=2920 Apple event, 48:40
- darthvoldemort 5y agoOh ya you're right! From the video it sounds like everyone is saying SensorShip though! I will delete this lol
- ramenmeal 5y agoNo wifi 6e, interesting.
- onion2k 5y agoWhen I'm not being a frontend dev I do a bit of wildlife photography. I really wish Apple made an actual camera. Their camera tech is great, their software is first class, but phone cameras are limited in sensor size and lens size simply by being phones. If Apple took their tech and put it in a dSLR size package with a first class lens (or interchangeable lenses) that would be truly awesome.
- MrRiddle 5y agoI imagine Canon RF lenses would start to seem like a bargain compared to Apple glass.
- cultofmetatron 5y agoI believe leica already owns the "crazy expensive niche lifestyle camera" brand. That said, a typical full frame sony sensor is going to blow the apple sensor out of the water.
- alistairSH 5y agoThey probably could make a killer camera. But, DSLRs are pretty much dead. Canon and Nikon are both investing in mirrorless now and IIRC Canon has effectively stopped development of their SLR line. And the camera market in general isn't great - compact cameras have effectively been replaced by cell phones and mirrorless systems are largely a pro-sumer product. FWIW, I bought my iPhone Pro specifically to replace my second mirrorless body. I'll keep one body around for "real" photography. But the phone is good enough for random snapshots.
- ziftface 5y agoHow would that be better than current DSLR or mirrorless cameras out there?
- djrogers 5y agoCanon, Nikon, and Sony don’t make great software often, and when they do, they don’t update it…
- suyash 5y agonothing exciting really, watch updates are dismal. The only interesting update with iPhone seems the camera but will wait for independent reviews to confirm the quality improvements.
- metadata 5y agoWith iPhone 12 Pro Max I expected a ton of difference compared to 12 Pro with that much larger sensor. Reviews were mostly in the "meh" area - I guess their software is just so good. So I expect no big real-world improvement in this generational jump.
- afavour 5y agoSomething that I've not noticed with previous models: the iPhone 13 costs $30 more if you buy it outright and not tied to a specific operator: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-13 https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-13 As someone who prefers to buy unlocked whenever I can this kind of rubs me the wrong way, and feels very counter to the feeling when the iPhone first arrived on the market.
- paxys 5y agoGood catch. This is the first time they have charged more for an unlocked version.
- julienb_sea 5y agoIt's not. They charged $30 extra for unlocked across the entire 12 model lineup. Not sure about the 11 or earlier.
- ksec 5y agoIt isn't charging for Unlocked. It is the US model comes with mmWave and Apple charges higher for these model. mmWave cost are subsidise on US carriers since US MNO managed to find mmWave usage and business model on mobile phones which no other MNO on the planet managed to do so.
- Ayesh 5y agoThe two camera lenses are _diagonal_ now. 120 Hz screens are nice, but most phone already feature similar displays at third of half the price, some even going as low as 1 Hz. Truly disappointing event.
- djrogers 5y agoThe pro has 3 camera lenses, and ProMotion does go down to 1hz - has for many years (introduced on the first iPad Pro).
- jodrellblank 5y agoThe linked page says it goes down to 10Hz: "The new Super Retina XDR display with ProMotion can refresh from 10 to 120 times per second"
- Lamad123 5y agoA smalle notch and better spying capability.. Thank you Steve Jobs from above the earth surface
- sul_tasto 5y ago“Privacy built in”?? Not sure what to make of that…
- paxys 5y agoNo USB-C. No Touch ID on the side button. No Pencil support. No emergency connectivity (as rumored). Notch is still as ugly as ever. Pretty underwhelming upgrade overall.
- ydnaclementine 5y agoIs 5G even real yet?
- coffeeedan 5y agoI get ~2.5Gb download speeds on my 12 mini when it has "5g UW" service. Seems real to me.
- KMnO4 5y agoAs someone with a 500mb data plan and $1/mb overage, this scares me. A month of data gone before I can stop the download. I hate living in a country with third-world phone plans (hint: it’s north of the USA).
- defaultname 5y agoThe A15 details were pretty tame, so maybe the "easy" wins are getting a little harder. While traditionally Apple heralds performance improvements over the prior generation, this time they seemed to stick purely to "versus the competition". We know that the A## are much faster than the competition, not to mention that the majority of prospective iPhone 13 buyers are considering upgrading from a prior generation(s) of iPhone, so the competition isn't a good frame of reference. As an aside -- came to make this comment after seeing the thread but had to jump away for a sec, to come back to find this submission on the fourth page, clearly having been flagged off the front page. ROFL. Sidenote - XCode 13 Release Candidate was just made available.
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- coffeeedan 5y agoI thought it was amusing that they chose to show off the iPhone using a delivery guy on a motorbike, with the iPhone mounted on the handlebars, especially after warning people not to do that: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212803 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212803
- jl6 5y agoIt's another incremental improvement but the asymptote becomes clearer each year.
- gnicholas 5y agoI was surprised that their video showed a guy strapping his iPhone onto a moped, considering that they just announced that mounting an iPhone on motorcycles or even electric mopeds/scooters can mess up the optical image stabilization system. https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/10/iphone-camera-vibration-damage-motorcyles/ https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/10/iphone-camera-vibration...
- djrogers 5y agoThe article you linked to and the subsequent link to apple say nothing about mopeds, they’re about ‘high-powered’ motorcycles. If you’ve never ridden one, the vibrations from a motorcycle are several orders of magnitude from a little Vespa or an ebike.
- gnicholas 5y agoThe Apple article linked to by Macrumors says: > Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations, but if you do so a vibration dampening mount is recommended to lessen the risk of damage to your iPhone and its OIS and AF systems.
- busymom0 5y ago"Apple is so concerned about the environment that it even recycles events from previous years." - YouTube comment perfectly sums it up.
- akmarinov 5y agoI wish they’d pull another iPhone X style phone where they bump the price quite a bit but add real stuff. Currently they sell so many phones in a quarter- they’re quite limited in what they can add as features, as the yields on components can’t scale to that size. For instance they could’ve added 120 Hz three years ago, TouchID in the button last year, probably notchless this year.
- WanderPanda 5y agoUSB-C is still vastly inferior to lightning mechanically. Which IMO is the most important part for a port mainly used for charging