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The research the GP's quote is referencing said Instagram made 41% feel better, 31% worse, and no impact for the other 28%. It's not clear why that can be used

by treis 5y ago

The research the GP's quote is referencing said Instagram made 41% feel better, 31% worse, and no impact for the other 28%. It's not clear why that can be used as evidence that it makes some girls feel worse about themselves but that it makes some girls feel better about themselves.

stickfigure 5y ago
Probably any social activity is similar. I'm willing to bet the statistics for "high school prom" are much worse. And then there's Cosmo and Vogue...
- pempem 5y ago
  Your note that the world is sexist and many things make women, teens and girls continously negatively evaluate themselves is something I agree. The rest I would truly contest. Prom is not an every single morning, universe commenting event no matter how the teenage brain may attempt to blow it up. Cosmo and Vogue do not have the same continuous feedback loop and clearly have 100x (1000x? 1mnx?) less content being created, repeated, refreshed, etc. Its a magazine. If you want to invoke their IG handles honestly I could find 100s of influencers with more reach and engagement
  - vagrantJin 5y ago
    > Your note that the world is sexist and many things make women, teens and girls continously negatively evaluate themselves How did you pull this from a rather benign statement about high school prom and magazines?
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    I think in contemporary culture and media in western nations sexism is vastly exaggerated. At least if you use the classical definition. Someone who is sexist rarely burdens people with expectations since those are by definition quite low. I believe other social phenomena are responsible for this, mainly forms of peer pressur. The stories influencers use to lure their audiences often invokes the threat of sexism and that naturally increases fears that might lead to a feedback loop.
- staplers 5y ago
  Without data, these are biased assumptions.
popcorncowboy 5y ago
I've come up with a new sports drink. X% of people say it makes them feel good! WOOO! Y% don't feel anything. About one in Z people will absolutely feel worse. If you have suicidal thoughts, about one in ten of those will be able to attribute their suicidal thinking to my drink. When interviewed about my drink, teenagers will unprompted blame the drink on increasing rates of anxiety and and depression. If you feel unattractive, odds are about even you started feeling that way when you started drinking my drink. Teens regularly report wanting to drink less of my drink but lack the self control to do so. In part this is because they report feeling like they have to be seen drinking my drink. I know all this because I employ researchers who say they can't get people in my sports drink company to take their findings seriously because those researchers are "standing directly between people and their bonuses". So my execs don't use our internal research, but cite instead other studies (by orgs that I donate to) that highlight the positives. I make $BILLIONS from this drink. (fill in whatever value of X, Y and Z makes this all ok)
- Aerroon 5y ago
  Alcohol is not a sports drink.

by treis 5y ago

stickfigure 5y ago

Probably any social activity is similar. I'm willing to bet the statistics for "high school prom" are much worse. And then there's Cosmo and Vogue...

pempem 5y ago
Your note that the world is sexist and many things make women, teens and girls continously negatively evaluate themselves is something I agree. The rest I would truly contest. Prom is not an every single morning, universe commenting event no matter how the teenage brain may attempt to blow it up. Cosmo and Vogue do not have the same continuous feedback loop and clearly have 100x (1000x? 1mnx?) less content being created, repeated, refreshed, etc. Its a magazine. If you want to invoke their IG handles honestly I could find 100s of influencers with more reach and engagement
- vagrantJin 5y ago
  > Your note that the world is sexist and many things make women, teens and girls continously negatively evaluate themselves How did you pull this from a rather benign statement about high school prom and magazines?
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  I think in contemporary culture and media in western nations sexism is vastly exaggerated. At least if you use the classical definition. Someone who is sexist rarely burdens people with expectations since those are by definition quite low. I believe other social phenomena are responsible for this, mainly forms of peer pressur. The stories influencers use to lure their audiences often invokes the threat of sexism and that naturally increases fears that might lead to a feedback loop.
staplers 5y ago
Without data, these are biased assumptions.

popcorncowboy 5y ago

I've come up with a new sports drink. X% of people say it makes them feel good! WOOO! Y% don't feel anything. About one in Z people will absolutely feel worse. If you have suicidal thoughts, about one in ten of those will be able to attribute their suicidal thinking to my drink. When interviewed about my drink, teenagers will unprompted blame the drink on increasing rates of anxiety and and depression. If you feel unattractive, odds are about even you started feeling that way when you started drinking my drink. Teens regularly report wanting to drink less of my drink but lack the self control to do so. In part this is because they report feeling like they have to be seen drinking my drink. I know all this because I employ researchers who say they can't get people in my sports drink company to take their findings seriously because those researchers are "standing directly between people and their bonuses". So my execs don't use our internal research, but cite instead other studies (by orgs that I donate to) that highlight the positives. I make $BILLIONS from this drink. (fill in whatever value of X, Y and Z makes this all ok)

Aerroon 5y ago
Alcohol is not a sports drink.