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I could say I don't support or believe in tech censorship, vaccine passports, virtue signaling, BLM, critical race theory, white guilt/privilege and that I don'

I could say I don't support or believe in tech censorship, vaccine passports, virtue signaling, BLM, critical race theory, white guilt/privilege and that I don't believe that trans women are women. However, I suspect that it's true that an employer would not approve of that, and that right leaning beliefs or believers don't get a fair shake in this climate. So I think it's best to not be open about and say such things. 80% of your paycheck is to do the job, and the 20% is to not have any opinions or sexually harass anyone.

vineyardmike 5y ago
> the 20% is to not ... sexually harass anyone. So dont act like a right wing politician
evv555 5y ago
The "Milgram Experiments" were successful because of people "just doing their jobs". If the situation has regressed to the point of being a bystander then I'm not sure what's best here.
- eddof13 5y ago
  Ideally a law where a person can't be fired because they have offensive political beliefs or opinions, I like tenure in universities
  - lolthrowaway1 5y ago
    Well obviously nobody is fired for that. But we obviously don't want to socialize with the right-wing bigot so you missed the lunch meeting where we discussed the future roadmap. I'm not stopping by your desk to ask your opinion about feature X or ask for help with a blocker issue. Peer reviews bottom out because they are so subjective and manager reviews reflect your very real lack of contribution to the team without the context of the fact that you've been shut out. It's damn near impossible to fix this in a legislative manner and I'd be a hypocrite if I advocated for such a solution.
- nradov 5y ago
  There is some evidence that the Milgram experiments were manipulated and don't actually show what you claim. See the Validity section of the Wikipedia page for criticisms. At least we can't draw any reliable conclusions from an experiment that was never reproduced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment?wprov=sfla1
ihappentobe 5y ago
If it is true that an employer would not approve of any of those views (which is not a given), then it would only be because views which limit other’s humanity are not often regarded kindly. By saying you don’t support BLM, or that you don’t believe trans women are women, you risk suggesting that you don’t see the value in those people’s lives. Certainly in the case of BLM, which began as a movement to protect Black lives from police brutality.
- CodeGlitch 5y ago
  > don’t see the value in those people’s lives Fortunately most people see the value of human life beyond their political beliefs.
  - ihappentobe 5y ago
    Being Black or trans is not a political belief. If you are transphobic you are denying someone their humanity.
    - CodeGlitch 5y ago
      Unfortunately modern identity politics have made them political, especially when someone starts waving their rainbow flags in my face. I just want to see people as "people"...and not see specific groups used as a means to push political agendas.
lolthrowaway1 5y ago
> 20% is to not have any opinions Unfortunately, in much of FAANG today, this isn't enough. If you're not openly a progressive you're assumed to be slightly to the right of stalin.
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- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  Faking or hiding an opinion to fit in isn't having an opinion. It's acting.

vineyardmike 5y ago

> the 20% is to not ... sexually harass anyone. So dont act like a right wing politician

evv555 5y ago

The "Milgram Experiments" were successful because of people "just doing their jobs". If the situation has regressed to the point of being a bystander then I'm not sure what's best here.

eddof13 5y ago
Ideally a law where a person can't be fired because they have offensive political beliefs or opinions, I like tenure in universities
- lolthrowaway1 5y ago
  Well obviously nobody is fired for that. But we obviously don't want to socialize with the right-wing bigot so you missed the lunch meeting where we discussed the future roadmap. I'm not stopping by your desk to ask your opinion about feature X or ask for help with a blocker issue. Peer reviews bottom out because they are so subjective and manager reviews reflect your very real lack of contribution to the team without the context of the fact that you've been shut out. It's damn near impossible to fix this in a legislative manner and I'd be a hypocrite if I advocated for such a solution.
nradov 5y ago
There is some evidence that the Milgram experiments were manipulated and don't actually show what you claim. See the Validity section of the Wikipedia page for criticisms. At least we can't draw any reliable conclusions from an experiment that was never reproduced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment?wprov=sfla1

ihappentobe 5y ago

If it is true that an employer would not approve of any of those views (which is not a given), then it would only be because views which limit other’s humanity are not often regarded kindly. By saying you don’t support BLM, or that you don’t believe trans women are women, you risk suggesting that you don’t see the value in those people’s lives. Certainly in the case of BLM, which began as a movement to protect Black lives from police brutality.

CodeGlitch 5y ago
> don’t see the value in those people’s lives Fortunately most people see the value of human life beyond their political beliefs.
- ihappentobe 5y ago
  Being Black or trans is not a political belief. If you are transphobic you are denying someone their humanity.
  - CodeGlitch 5y ago
    Unfortunately modern identity politics have made them political, especially when someone starts waving their rainbow flags in my face. I just want to see people as "people"...and not see specific groups used as a means to push political agendas.

lolthrowaway1 5y ago

> 20% is to not have any opinions Unfortunately, in much of FAANG today, this isn't enough. If you're not openly a progressive you're assumed to be slightly to the right of stalin.

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xboxnolifes 5y ago
Faking or hiding an opinion to fit in isn't having an opinion. It's acting.