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Almost certainly it will fall back at least partway. Like the increase in work-from-home, though, it is possible that it will not fall all the way back to pre-

Almost certainly it will fall back at least partway. Like the increase in work-from-home, though, it is possible that it will not fall all the way back to pre-pandemic levels. But I think there is no question some of this change will not "stick".

jandrese 5y ago
My family is doing this as we have 4th grader twins and a 6th grader that are not eligible for the vaccine yet. Homeschooling is a huge amount of work for the parents. As soon as we can vaccinate the kids they are going back to regular school. While I'm pretty sure the kids are learning more than they did last year, and maybe even more than they would have learned in regular school it's so much less efficient that it just doesn't feel worth it. But the alternative is the kids get COVID. It's not a question of if but when. The schools here are just not taking it seriously enough, and frankly they probably couldn't given the number of kids in the building. Sure they'll probably be OK when they get it, most kids are, but it seems completely reckless to just send them with the hope that they won't get a bad case. We are hoping to send the 6th grader back for the second half of the semester, he'll be getting the vaccine right after his birthday this month so we have a waiting period, a second shot, and another waiting period before he goes back.
- philwelch 5y ago
  > But the alternative is the kids get COVID. It's not a question of if but when.... Sure they'll probably be OK when they get it, most kids are, but it seems completely reckless to just send them with the hope that they won't get a bad case. From the statistics I've seen, the risk to children is comparable to the risk from RSV or influenza, and less than the risks of driving them to and from school. I'm curious if you've seen different data.
- nradov 5y ago
  There is no significant risk for healthy children. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02423-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02423-8
  - jandrese 5y ago
    The current variants (except maybe Mu, we don't have enough data yet) are not too bad for kids, but at the same time I don't want to create an environment with heavy selection pressure on the virus to mutate into a form that is especially contagious in children. Every grade school is an incubator today. We are just begging for a Nu variant with a transmissiblity factor of 3 in small children.
- sokoloff 5y ago
  They’re not carding, so I suspect quite strongly that your 6th grader would “pass” and get the vaccine if you present their arm and say they’re 12. If our 10 year would pass, he’d be vax’d already (even though I think the risk to him is already extremely small).
  - jandrese 5y ago
    We considered this, but the vaccine clinics wanted to check our insurance cards which would give away the game.
    - sokoloff 5y ago
      “We don’t have insurance (or we don’t have any information with us).” Might work. I brought my card and CVS didn’t even want to look at it. (They’re getting paid either way and not via insurance.)

jandrese 5y ago

My family is doing this as we have 4th grader twins and a 6th grader that are not eligible for the vaccine yet. Homeschooling is a huge amount of work for the parents. As soon as we can vaccinate the kids they are going back to regular school. While I'm pretty sure the kids are learning more than they did last year, and maybe even more than they would have learned in regular school it's so much less efficient that it just doesn't feel worth it. But the alternative is the kids get COVID. It's not a question of if but when. The schools here are just not taking it seriously enough, and frankly they probably couldn't given the number of kids in the building. Sure they'll probably be OK when they get it, most kids are, but it seems completely reckless to just send them with the hope that they won't get a bad case. We are hoping to send the 6th grader back for the second half of the semester, he'll be getting the vaccine right after his birthday this month so we have a waiting period, a second shot, and another waiting period before he goes back.

philwelch 5y ago
> But the alternative is the kids get COVID. It's not a question of if but when.... Sure they'll probably be OK when they get it, most kids are, but it seems completely reckless to just send them with the hope that they won't get a bad case. From the statistics I've seen, the risk to children is comparable to the risk from RSV or influenza, and less than the risks of driving them to and from school. I'm curious if you've seen different data.
nradov 5y ago
There is no significant risk for healthy children. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02423-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02423-8
- jandrese 5y ago
  The current variants (except maybe Mu, we don't have enough data yet) are not too bad for kids, but at the same time I don't want to create an environment with heavy selection pressure on the virus to mutate into a form that is especially contagious in children. Every grade school is an incubator today. We are just begging for a Nu variant with a transmissiblity factor of 3 in small children.
sokoloff 5y ago
They’re not carding, so I suspect quite strongly that your 6th grader would “pass” and get the vaccine if you present their arm and say they’re 12. If our 10 year would pass, he’d be vax’d already (even though I think the risk to him is already extremely small).
- jandrese 5y ago
  We considered this, but the vaccine clinics wanted to check our insurance cards which would give away the game.
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    “We don’t have insurance (or we don’t have any information with us).” Might work. I brought my card and CVS didn’t even want to look at it. (They’re getting paid either way and not via insurance.)