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every single unvaccinated COVID patient would simply lie and say they were vaccinated You realize medical records are digitized and shared across medical insti

every single unvaccinated COVID patient would simply lie and say they were vaccinated You realize medical records are digitized and shared across medical institutions, right? I got vaccinated at a county clinic, but my health insurance provider still knew without me having to tell them.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago
COVID vaccination records are currently spotty and not always available. Are you suggesting we turn people away unless we can conclusively prove their vaccination status? Anyone who got vaccinated in a state (or country) without readily accessible records gets turned away? The whole concept is infeasible.
- r00fus 5y ago
  People who have non-COVID life-threatening emergencies are already being turned away because the beds are already full. Ultimately this is part and parcel of our privatized medical system where there were way more hospital beds per capita in the 70s/80s than today while costs have gone through the roof.
- CameronNemo 5y ago
  Not turn them away immediately. They should be given a grace period to get their docs in order. Say a few days. Then if they still do not have verifiable evidence, yes they would be prioritized lower.
sokoloff 5y ago
My vax card existed in paper form only until I showed it to my GP at my next physical who then entered it into Epic. Could CVS have reported it to someone? Maybe. Did they? All evidence points to “no”.
- CameronNemo 5y ago
  I am curious -- if you contact CVS and say 'I lost my card', would they give you a new one? Or some other info?
xlii 5y ago
Not sure how it goes in US, but in Europe you can quite easily get pseudo-vaccinated. Costs couple hundreds € depending on place but it's rather widespread, especially right now, when you can pick place where you want to be "vaccinated". It's simple. You show, your dose gets straight to trash, all the papers are OK. Show up in couple months for the next "dose".
- junipertea 5y ago
  This is really upsetting. People literally tossing vaccine into the trash to claim they are vaccinated and can travel.
  - r00fus 5y ago
    It's upsetting on multiple levels. I'd like to know more to see if it's anything more than an anecdote.
- rwbhn 5y ago
  > it's rather widespread Source?
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nradov 5y ago
In practice clinical systems interoperability is still very limited. Many provider organizations remain unable to share data with each other, especially across state lines. State immunization registries exist, but data updates lag and some patients will have been vaccinated in other states or countries.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

COVID vaccination records are currently spotty and not always available. Are you suggesting we turn people away unless we can conclusively prove their vaccination status? Anyone who got vaccinated in a state (or country) without readily accessible records gets turned away? The whole concept is infeasible.

r00fus 5y ago
People who have non-COVID life-threatening emergencies are already being turned away because the beds are already full. Ultimately this is part and parcel of our privatized medical system where there were way more hospital beds per capita in the 70s/80s than today while costs have gone through the roof.
CameronNemo 5y ago
Not turn them away immediately. They should be given a grace period to get their docs in order. Say a few days. Then if they still do not have verifiable evidence, yes they would be prioritized lower.

sokoloff 5y ago

My vax card existed in paper form only until I showed it to my GP at my next physical who then entered it into Epic. Could CVS have reported it to someone? Maybe. Did they? All evidence points to “no”.

CameronNemo 5y ago
I am curious -- if you contact CVS and say 'I lost my card', would they give you a new one? Or some other info?

xlii 5y ago

Not sure how it goes in US, but in Europe you can quite easily get pseudo-vaccinated. Costs couple hundreds € depending on place but it's rather widespread, especially right now, when you can pick place where you want to be "vaccinated". It's simple. You show, your dose gets straight to trash, all the papers are OK. Show up in couple months for the next "dose".

junipertea 5y ago
This is really upsetting. People literally tossing vaccine into the trash to claim they are vaccinated and can travel.
- r00fus 5y ago
  It's upsetting on multiple levels. I'd like to know more to see if it's anything more than an anecdote.
rwbhn 5y ago
> it's rather widespread Source?

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nradov 5y ago

In practice clinical systems interoperability is still very limited. Many provider organizations remain unable to share data with each other, especially across state lines. State immunization registries exist, but data updates lag and some patients will have been vaccinated in other states or countries.