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What you omit from this analysis is that the numbers for immigrants (not refugees, the report does not make that distinction) are lowering significantly more in
by krageon 5y ago
What you omit from this analysis is that the numbers for immigrants (not refugees, the report does not make that distinction) are lowering significantly more in percentages than the other groups basically across the board. Where they are not leader in crime decrease they are at least lowering as much as native Germans.
Edit: I made the mistake of engaging with your post, where actually it would have been more constructive to point out that you have moved the goalpost: The claim was that refugees are criminals mostly. You have not proven this, you've just proven that some of them commit crime when they are in a new country. That doesn't mean they emigrated as criminals.
- Phil_Latio 5y ago> you have moved the goalpost: The claim was that refugees are criminals mostly I translate "significant" to "meaningful", "noteable" (relative to something) in this context... Not a native speaker though, maybe I'm wrong? If I'm wrong, you are right. But it would be so obviously false anyway, wouldn't it? Only an idiot would claim that let's say 50% of refugees are criminals.
- krageon 5y agoI broadly agree with your last sentence, even though I would have worded it differently here. That is the reason I asked for proof: It was to highlight there isn't any, because it's not true. Your broader point, that sometimes immigrants fall into criminal traps, is one that is relevant and interesting. It's important to figure out why this happens and how it can be mitigated, because immigration is forever. You want your social structure and systems to be such that no-one feels like the only way they have to have a reasonable life is to be a criminal.