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A search of my country’s main job site says approx: 250 Ruby ads 420 PHP ads 1600 Java ads 1600 python ads 1300 .NET ads

hexa22 5y ago
This is likely more accurate than the OP link. My experience is that Ruby jobs are less common but that they seem to pay far more.
- hparadiz 5y ago
  This is why I recommend converting from Ruby to PHP. Costs are way lower and it's easier to find devs.
  - midrus 5y ago
    Sure, and rewriting everything is easy and a piece of cake too
    - hparadiz 5y ago
      I've been in a situation before where a company was being quoted 20k for one new system build out by an outside agency to work on their ruby site. They wanted an events page with an admin back end. Instead I hired a Junior PHP dev for them making 75/year who converted the entire existing site in 8 weeks and then proceeded to build the same events functionality for a fraction of the cost and then went onto building the wish list of features they wanted over the next year. If they went with the outside agency they'd have spent 300k and probably not even had a good outcome. This was 10 years ago though so inflate everything I said across the board by 25%.
thehappypm 5y ago
New job postings is a good metric for new web sites, but new sites are a tiny fraction of the total internet.
- moystard 5y ago
  Existing companies still need to hire, and the job market is a good reflection of what technologies are in-demand at any given moment.
- scbrg 5y ago
  I've also heard that you can use computers for other things than displaying web sites, but that might just be a rumor :)
unnouinceput 5y ago
A search, right now, on Upwork does the following: PHP - 12316 jobs Ruby - 1175 jobs Java - 5902 jobs Python - 10051 jobs .NET - 2353 jobs Adding a few of the others: C# - 2562 jobs (I suspect those .NET also can be interchanged with C#) C++ - 1711 jobs Go - 3925 jobs Rust - 382 jobs Feel free to double check my results. Like it or not, Upwork is the largest freelancer site.
- oefrha 5y ago
  Upwork also skews towards one-off gigs for businesses serving a tiny audience, often with <=$100 pay. The average full-time, long-term job offering could be equivalent to maybe 50 average Upwork jobs (just a ballpark number I pulled out of nowhere).
  - unnouinceput 5y ago
    And let's assume your pulled from nowhere ballpark number would be true. Even then the percentage of those jobs would still be in favor for PHP, with PHP being an order of magnitude higher than Ruby
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Well to counter your anecdotal search Linkedin shows 31226 jobs for Ruby (U.S) vs 22208 for PHP. I think PHP isn't really strong in North American but more in Europe.
  - unnouinceput 5y ago
    Anecdotal search? How so, please explain.
    - joelbluminator 5y ago
      You're searching in one website which is intended for freelancers, that's not exactly a good representation of the software industry.

hexa22 5y ago

This is likely more accurate than the OP link. My experience is that Ruby jobs are less common but that they seem to pay far more.

hparadiz 5y ago
This is why I recommend converting from Ruby to PHP. Costs are way lower and it's easier to find devs.
- midrus 5y ago
  Sure, and rewriting everything is easy and a piece of cake too
  - hparadiz 5y ago
    I've been in a situation before where a company was being quoted 20k for one new system build out by an outside agency to work on their ruby site. They wanted an events page with an admin back end. Instead I hired a Junior PHP dev for them making 75/year who converted the entire existing site in 8 weeks and then proceeded to build the same events functionality for a fraction of the cost and then went onto building the wish list of features they wanted over the next year. If they went with the outside agency they'd have spent 300k and probably not even had a good outcome. This was 10 years ago though so inflate everything I said across the board by 25%.

thehappypm 5y ago

New job postings is a good metric for new web sites, but new sites are a tiny fraction of the total internet.

moystard 5y ago
Existing companies still need to hire, and the job market is a good reflection of what technologies are in-demand at any given moment.
scbrg 5y ago
I've also heard that you can use computers for other things than displaying web sites, but that might just be a rumor :)

unnouinceput 5y ago

A search, right now, on Upwork does the following: PHP - 12316 jobs Ruby - 1175 jobs Java - 5902 jobs Python - 10051 jobs .NET - 2353 jobs Adding a few of the others: C# - 2562 jobs (I suspect those .NET also can be interchanged with C#) C++ - 1711 jobs Go - 3925 jobs Rust - 382 jobs Feel free to double check my results. Like it or not, Upwork is the largest freelancer site.

oefrha 5y ago
Upwork also skews towards one-off gigs for businesses serving a tiny audience, often with <=$100 pay. The average full-time, long-term job offering could be equivalent to maybe 50 average Upwork jobs (just a ballpark number I pulled out of nowhere).
- unnouinceput 5y ago
  And let's assume your pulled from nowhere ballpark number would be true. Even then the percentage of those jobs would still be in favor for PHP, with PHP being an order of magnitude higher than Ruby
joelbluminator 5y ago
Well to counter your anecdotal search Linkedin shows 31226 jobs for Ruby (U.S) vs 22208 for PHP. I think PHP isn't really strong in North American but more in Europe.
- unnouinceput 5y ago
  Anecdotal search? How so, please explain.
  - joelbluminator 5y ago
    You're searching in one website which is intended for freelancers, that's not exactly a good representation of the software industry.