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Good. The better product will win out. If I was working on the Edgeium team, I would beg the Windows and Bing people to be less heavy-handed. It's a quality pr
by thrower123 5y ago
Good. The better product will win out.
If I was working on the Edgeium team, I would beg the Windows and Bing people to be less heavy-handed. It's a quality product, but the advertising and nudging is souring me.
- jfk13 5y agoYes, indeed. I do choose to run Edge sometimes, but the constant attempts to push or trick me into making it the default are really grating.
- ilaksh 5y agoWhy should we have to keep begging them or something? Using Linux instead of Windows is a moral issue.
- LeonB 5y agoSoftware constantly uses dark patterns and even “well-behaved” software asks questions with answers like “yes” (large writing) and “maybe later” as the only no option. It’s completely normalised.
- burnished 5y agoIt's not a realistic answer for the vast majority of users.
- dotancohen 5y agoHonest question: Why not? What application does "the vast majority of users" need that is Windows only, today? From my experience with family, coworkers, friends, and neighbors, the vast majority of people today need a web browser. That's it.
- burnished 5y agoSwitching costs! I suspect there is a high degree of knowledge and experience you posses that you are discounting. Most people would need to learn a really tremendous amount to understand what they were switching to and why. Hell, I've got enough know how that I could figure it out, but it doesn't rise high enough in my priority to do. You might also be discounting people who use their machines to play games with. Although I hear good things about SteamOS, that might push the needle.
- dotancohen 5y ago> Switching costs! In my opinion, switching costs are real and are a problem. I've especially seen it with the elderly. However, different Windows versions now have not-insignificant switching costs as well. So while I agree that it is a concern, Windows users must deal with switching costs every three to five years whereas KDE users have had to pay those costs exactly once (KDE 3 -> 4) during the almost two decades that I've been using KDE.
- skrebbel 5y agoYou don't, you're not working on Edgium.
- squarefoot 5y ago> The better product will win out. The more advertised one will win. Chrome is a joke privacy-wise compared to Firefox, but at the moment the winner is Chrome. Also the target audience is important: to the average Windows user, if Microsoft says Edge is best, then Edge is best, and Mozilla has no resources to fight back on equal terms since it's Microsoft deciding what runs on their operating system and what their users read or watch.
- colinmhayes 5y agoNo one outside this website cares about privacy.
- saagarjha 5y agoThat is not true. Public polling indicates that most people do care about privacy, but are unaware of how software tracks them, or when aware, feel powerless to change anything.
- lacksconfidence 5y agoI'm sure I have a biased view, but i hear people care about privacy in the same way they care about leaving facebook. They would like to, in a purely theoretical manner, but they aren't willing to change anything about their life to get that effect. It seems like many people only care enough about privacy to click a button. Sure some people actually remove facebook, but the overwhelming majority of people are voting that they prefer the services offered, even with the tradeoffs. Unfortunate, but seems likely to me.