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NZ has had way, way less lockdowns than pretty much anywhere else in the world. This is because they are an island, and they eliminated Covid once and are aimi

NZ has had way, way less lockdowns than pretty much anywhere else in the world. This is because they are an island, and they eliminated Covid once and are aiming to do so again.

nickthemagicman 5y ago
They delayed Covid once. And are going to delay Covid again. The only way to eliminate it to a basic endemic state, is via the immune system. And the fact that vaccines just reduce the symptoms and don't stop it's spread....means it's never going away.
- gridspy 5y ago
  The word "Eliminate" has an epidemiological meaning and it is not up to you to interpret it into some other word. Eliminate revolves around the strategy of stopping viral spread in a given population until there are no new cases. That population in this case is NZ, not the world. For more info on "Keep it out, Prepare for it, Stamp it out," read https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-response-planning/covid-19-elimination-strategy-aotearoa-new-zealand https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/...
  - nickthemagicman 5y ago
    > the strategy of stopping viral spread in a given population until there are no new case Will never happen happen except temporarily. That's just fundamental epidemiology.
    - gridspy 5y ago
      Well, naturally we won't eliminate Covid globally until we globally pursue an elimination strategy. It's a pity that more nations aren't doing so.
      - nickthemagicman 5y ago
        Has there ever been an airborne disease that's been elimated globally?
gridspy 5y ago
Any nation could do the same. It's less to do with "being an island" so much as "having strong borders" I feel like "only NZ could have done this, since they are an island" is a cop-out. Any nation could adopt other pillars of our system also, such as free testing, free healthcare, free vaccinations. Or Contact tracing, quarantine of infected people. Clear scientific communication by those in charge. It's not magic, it has been well documented what to do in pandemic situations for 20 years. Only the specific tools (the test, the vaccine itself) are specific to Covid-19.

NZ has had way, way less lockdowns than pretty much anywhere else in the world. This is because they are an island, and they eliminated Covid once and are aiming to do so again.

nickthemagicman 5y ago

They delayed Covid once. And are going to delay Covid again. The only way to eliminate it to a basic endemic state, is via the immune system. And the fact that vaccines just reduce the symptoms and don't stop it's spread....means it's never going away.

gridspy 5y ago
The word "Eliminate" has an epidemiological meaning and it is not up to you to interpret it into some other word. Eliminate revolves around the strategy of stopping viral spread in a given population until there are no new cases. That population in this case is NZ, not the world. For more info on "Keep it out, Prepare for it, Stamp it out," read https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-response-planning/covid-19-elimination-strategy-aotearoa-new-zealand https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/...
- nickthemagicman 5y ago
  > the strategy of stopping viral spread in a given population until there are no new case Will never happen happen except temporarily. That's just fundamental epidemiology.
  - gridspy 5y ago
    Well, naturally we won't eliminate Covid globally until we globally pursue an elimination strategy. It's a pity that more nations aren't doing so.
    - nickthemagicman 5y ago
      Has there ever been an airborne disease that's been elimated globally?

gridspy 5y ago

Any nation could do the same. It's less to do with "being an island" so much as "having strong borders" I feel like "only NZ could have done this, since they are an island" is a cop-out. Any nation could adopt other pillars of our system also, such as free testing, free healthcare, free vaccinations. Or Contact tracing, quarantine of infected people. Clear scientific communication by those in charge. It's not magic, it has been well documented what to do in pandemic situations for 20 years. Only the specific tools (the test, the vaccine itself) are specific to Covid-19.