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Recent advancements in AI made me wonder whether human intelligence is little more than a "stochastic parrot" with a large enough training set. If I dig down fa

by nothis 5y ago

Recent advancements in AI made me wonder whether human intelligence is little more than a "stochastic parrot" with a large enough training set. If I dig down far enough, almost any knowledge could be learned and understood that way. You can write a math book using natural language. Even smart people occasionally make simple mistakes when doing math, isn't that just a "stochastic" error as well?

Jensson 5y ago
An AI isn't an individual, it should be compared to generations of experts working on a problem. If you could make an AI which works as a group of individuals with generations etc, it would still just be a single AI. And generations of experts basically don't make math mistakes, we have built our entire society on their works and it is extremely accurate Modern stochastic AI couldn't get that sort of accuracy, at some point it would need to determine that a result X is true and eliminate all other possibilities, humanity did that so for AI to have human like power it needs to be able to do the same. That is extremely important since it now means that we can start to properly analyse results depending on X and see that everything which depends on X being false can't happen so we can ignore those, this helps humanity drive progress.
CRConrad 5y ago
> Recent advancements in AI made me wonder whether human intelligence is little more than a "stochastic parrot" with a large enough training set. If I dig down far enough, almost any knowledge could be learned and understood that way. People don't get obviously counter-productive results like "I think you should" (kill yourself) from human intelligence, though. As long as this simple stochastic text-regurgitators do that, I think it's an insult to intelligence to call them "intelligence". Idunno, I think "intelligence" has (at least to me) very strong connotations of common sense. (Yeay, yeah, I know: Not so common at all, unfortunately, heh heh heh.) These models don't seem to have any of that at all.
marcosdumay 5y ago
There are some things that those "stochastic parrots" can not replicate. A famous one it the "not" problem ("a robin is not a ____", but more famously, it's googling for "shirt without strips") one comment sibling of yours talks about.

by nothis 5y ago

Jensson 5y ago

An AI isn't an individual, it should be compared to generations of experts working on a problem. If you could make an AI which works as a group of individuals with generations etc, it would still just be a single AI. And generations of experts basically don't make math mistakes, we have built our entire society on their works and it is extremely accurate Modern stochastic AI couldn't get that sort of accuracy, at some point it would need to determine that a result X is true and eliminate all other possibilities, humanity did that so for AI to have human like power it needs to be able to do the same. That is extremely important since it now means that we can start to properly analyse results depending on X and see that everything which depends on X being false can't happen so we can ignore those, this helps humanity drive progress.

CRConrad 5y ago

> Recent advancements in AI made me wonder whether human intelligence is little more than a "stochastic parrot" with a large enough training set. If I dig down far enough, almost any knowledge could be learned and understood that way. People don't get obviously counter-productive results like "I think you should" (kill yourself) from human intelligence, though. As long as this simple stochastic text-regurgitators do that, I think it's an insult to intelligence to call them "intelligence". Idunno, I think "intelligence" has (at least to me) very strong connotations of common sense. (Yeay, yeah, I know: Not so common at all, unfortunately, heh heh heh.) These models don't seem to have any of that at all.

marcosdumay 5y ago

There are some things that those "stochastic parrots" can not replicate. A famous one it the "not" problem ("a robin is not a ____", but more famously, it's googling for "shirt without strips") one comment sibling of yours talks about.