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> Well, imagine the case where a loner looses their best friend, and goes to this website to "talk with their trusted friend again" instead of getting some rea

> Well, imagine the case where a loner looses their best friend, and goes to this website to "talk with their trusted friend again" instead of getting some real help. Will GPT-3 reliably counsel this sad and lonely person to "stay behind", or will it suggest the should "meet up"? So we should shut down the internet in general, because people ought to go outside instead too?

sgt101 5y ago
>So we should shut down the internet in general, because people ought to go outside instead too? That's a pretty good idea tbh.
- AllegedAlec 5y ago
  I agree btw, because I think overall the internet was a mistake and a net negative. I just think this particular line of argumentation is really stupid, which is why I chose this example, to show how it can be used to cancel anything and everything.
  - SiempreViernes 5y ago
    Your straw man of the argument is however plainly ridiculous, so I'm not sure why you think it's successful.
    - AllegedAlec 5y ago
      It's not a straw man. It's taking your own logic to the extreme: it could be abused, so we need to either control it or get rid of it.
      - SiempreViernes 5y ago
        Taking it to the extreme is often a trivial way of creating a straw man. My argument was about one specific service not being perfectly free of risk, and so there where clear boundaries inherent in the argument. You dismiss these boundaries and then act surprised the resulting argument is silly. This makes me wonder what your stance is on boxes, as they too depend on imposing boundaries.
SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
The Internet in general is a very broad thing with lots of valuable, legitimate use cases. There are definitely other specific things on the Internet which I think should be shut down because they tend to keep people trapped: infinite scroll, for example.
- AllegedAlec 5y ago
  > There are definitely other specific things on the Internet which I think should be shut down because they tend to keep people trapped: infinite scroll, for example So ISPs should force everyone who hosts a website to insert monitoring software, to prevent abuse like that. And if they refuse, they can cancel service.

sgt101 5y ago

>So we should shut down the internet in general, because people ought to go outside instead too? That's a pretty good idea tbh.

AllegedAlec 5y ago
I agree btw, because I think overall the internet was a mistake and a net negative. I just think this particular line of argumentation is really stupid, which is why I chose this example, to show how it can be used to cancel anything and everything.
- SiempreViernes 5y ago
  Your straw man of the argument is however plainly ridiculous, so I'm not sure why you think it's successful.
  - AllegedAlec 5y ago
    It's not a straw man. It's taking your own logic to the extreme: it could be abused, so we need to either control it or get rid of it.
    - SiempreViernes 5y ago
      Taking it to the extreme is often a trivial way of creating a straw man. My argument was about one specific service not being perfectly free of risk, and so there where clear boundaries inherent in the argument. You dismiss these boundaries and then act surprised the resulting argument is silly. This makes me wonder what your stance is on boxes, as they too depend on imposing boundaries.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago

The Internet in general is a very broad thing with lots of valuable, legitimate use cases. There are definitely other specific things on the Internet which I think should be shut down because they tend to keep people trapped: infinite scroll, for example.

AllegedAlec 5y ago
> There are definitely other specific things on the Internet which I think should be shut down because they tend to keep people trapped: infinite scroll, for example So ISPs should force everyone who hosts a website to insert monitoring software, to prevent abuse like that. And if they refuse, they can cancel service.