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What if 3 US citizens said "fuck no", and it was someone on much shakier ground who felt the pressure to say yes? Not a given at all, just makes it more likely.
by flixic 5y ago
What if 3 US citizens said "fuck no", and it was someone on much shakier ground who felt the pressure to say yes? Not a given at all, just makes it more likely.
- yunohn 5y agoIt really seems horribly racist to just assume that it must be the “lesser moral” H1B employee who made this dark pattern happen. You have zero evidence, no indication that’s the case, and are speculating wildly.
- tortasaur 5y agoIt isn't even slightly racist. It isn't a comparison of morals between the H1B worker and U.S. citizen; the employer simply has more leverage over the H1B worker.
- yunohn 5y agoBut where is this assumption of a H1B worker causing this coming from? Literally zero indication of this, just a racist strawman. What a depressing thread this has been.
- IIsi50MHz 5y agoI'm not seeing any claim that an H1B employee is less moral, only that a person (regardless of visa status) can be coerced into doing something they would rather not do. Also, there is no inherent racial component to an H1B or other status. The example of an H1B person seems to have been provided only as a sample to further illustrate the point that "Just quit on principle, rather than implement this thing!" is often not an acceptable action due to other effects.
- yunohn 5y agoThis whole thread has nods to moral high ground US citizens, versus the immoral scared H1B workers, who are /obviously/ the only ones who would implement such a dark pattern. Mind you we’re discussing an American company, working with American clients. You seem to be one of those “assume good faith” people, who knows exactly what the others actually mean.
- Talanes 5y ago>Mind you we’re discussing an American company, working with American clients. And everyone in this thread is discussing how that company could be using American laws to pressure workers. This thread is an indictment of an American system, no one is blaming the H1B workers.