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If you tell them you aren't doing it, they'll fire you and find someone who will. It'll end up existing either way.

Engineering-MD 5y ago
This argument can justify anything on that basis, from fraud to murder or slavery. By withdrawing your services to do it, you reduce supply, increasing prices and providing a financial penalty for trying to enact it.
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  Am I the only one seeing the irony of it? You are asking the guy who already added a ton of JavaScript junk to the website to have concerns about one delay function?
- grishka 5y ago
  There's plenty of people who would do whatever they're told, regardless of their own principles, as long as they're paid for it. I'm not one of them, sure, but as long as there's just ONE person like this, we can't have nice things in the long run.
- inetknght 5y ago
  > This argument can justify anything on that basis, from fraud to murder or slavery. Interestingly there are laws and whistleblower protections against murder and slavery.
moron4hire 5y ago
Another poster mentioned H1B visa holders, and I'm sure that is a valid concern there, given how poorly H1B holders are treated. But as a citizen, I've heard this many times, been told it to my face during sit downs with my boss while refusing to do something shady, and it has never happened. On two occasions, the threat was idle. On two more, I quit and they never did find anyone to replace me. But regardless, even if it were true, you still need to protect your own soul. Better to let someone else corrupt themselves.
Aeolun 5y ago
Exactly! But what if everyone had a concience and said no? Would they fire all their developers? Anyway, they wouldn’t fire you since just finding someone else to do it is easier than starting any HR process. That’s pretty sad by itself.
criddell 5y ago
It's one reason that software engineering should become a real Engineering profession and not just a title. If your employer asks you do something unethical, it would give you grounds for pushing back. Who would risk losing their license to practice because of a deceptive cookie notice?

This argument can justify anything on that basis, from fraud to murder or slavery. By withdrawing your services to do it, you reduce supply, increasing prices and providing a financial penalty for trying to enact it.

hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
Am I the only one seeing the irony of it? You are asking the guy who already added a ton of JavaScript junk to the website to have concerns about one delay function?
grishka 5y ago
There's plenty of people who would do whatever they're told, regardless of their own principles, as long as they're paid for it. I'm not one of them, sure, but as long as there's just ONE person like this, we can't have nice things in the long run.
inetknght 5y ago
> This argument can justify anything on that basis, from fraud to murder or slavery. Interestingly there are laws and whistleblower protections against murder and slavery.

moron4hire 5y ago

Another poster mentioned H1B visa holders, and I'm sure that is a valid concern there, given how poorly H1B holders are treated. But as a citizen, I've heard this many times, been told it to my face during sit downs with my boss while refusing to do something shady, and it has never happened. On two occasions, the threat was idle. On two more, I quit and they never did find anyone to replace me. But regardless, even if it were true, you still need to protect your own soul. Better to let someone else corrupt themselves.

Aeolun 5y ago

Exactly! But what if everyone had a concience and said no? Would they fire all their developers? Anyway, they wouldn’t fire you since just finding someone else to do it is easier than starting any HR process. That’s pretty sad by itself.

criddell 5y ago

It's one reason that software engineering should become a real Engineering profession and not just a title. If your employer asks you do something unethical, it would give you grounds for pushing back. Who would risk losing their license to practice because of a deceptive cookie notice?