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That's so compassionate of you. I don't know that I would think of doing that.

jacquesm 5y ago
Well, if you take into consideration how crappy the locks are on those old cars then maybe I had a very cheap security guard ;) He really was a nice old man and super embarrassed about the whole thing. The funniest bit about this is how I discovered he did this, one day I got up too early thinking I was late, rushed out and drove off without my usual morning routine and when I heard a voice behind me asking if he could please get out of the car, my heart nearly stopped :)
- itwy 5y ago
  That's hilarious. How did the rest of the conversation go?
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    I just dropped him off at the nearest light. He would leave a small bag in the car from then on so he didn't have to lug all his stuff around. This was around 1989, the location is Veemarkt in Amsterdam ('Veemarkt' is dutch for cattle market). Back then homeless people in Amsterdam were fairly rare, now there are 100's of them.
    - pen2l 5y ago
      I'm surprised that he chose to continue using your car then, because I would have thought being found out once would permanently turn him off and have him find another place. I guess you might have communicated to him that it was okay for him to use your car is a stronger way than you recall; or maybe the 80s just had a different vibe.
      - jacquesm 5y ago
        I don't think he had a whole lot of options in his life. Primarily I think he did it because he felt safe there, that area was at the time very much out of the way of traffic and apart from the occasional burglary there wasn't much crime. One funny angle is that I was living there illegally myself, I didn't have a kitchen or a place to shower there and it being so quiet is why I got away with that. The people from other companies in that building knew that I was staying there overnight, but they in turn also didn't mind because they saw me as their 'free nightwatch', so there is some recurring element in there. Anyway, it's ages ago, and if it happened today I'm not sure how I would respond, and I always wondered what happened to him but I did not see him after I moved (I went all the way to Poland). https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3679788,4.9392218,3a,75y,187.39h,82.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1st2HPCsZJP1PjwxQGBhiilQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dt2HPCsZJP1PjwxQGBhiilQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D92.120544%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3679788,4.9392218,3a,75y,187... My unit was the one one from the corner on top (the entrance was at the back), about 60 square meters, an early version of a hackerspace I guess, and the bike path on the left wasn't there at the time, that's where there was parking space. Now there are a few thousand people living on the other side of the street so you would never get away with it today anyway, someone would spot you there before the first day was out.
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- dTal 5y ago
  Maybe it's the pandemic heightening my senses, but it's strange to me that you wouldn't notice the smell. I can immediately tell if someone new has been in an unventilated room for, oh say a few hours afterward. There's no way I wouldn't notice someone sleeping in my car overnight, unless they went out of their way to air it out.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    You clearly have never set foot in an elderly Citroen. They are so full of holes that when it rains outside it is only marginally better inside. Ok, you have a nice fiberglass roof over you. But the bottoms of the doors are rusted out, the front vents end up directly in the engine bay (because: paper tubing, which is eaten up by insects), the wind sills don't line up with the windows and the doors close poorly. On the plus side: plenty of ventilation ;)
    - dTal 5y ago
      You are correct, I have not :) Thank you for the contextual flavor.

Well, if you take into consideration how crappy the locks are on those old cars then maybe I had a very cheap security guard ;) He really was a nice old man and super embarrassed about the whole thing. The funniest bit about this is how I discovered he did this, one day I got up too early thinking I was late, rushed out and drove off without my usual morning routine and when I heard a voice behind me asking if he could please get out of the car, my heart nearly stopped :)

itwy 5y ago
That's hilarious. How did the rest of the conversation go?
- jacquesm 5y ago
  I just dropped him off at the nearest light. He would leave a small bag in the car from then on so he didn't have to lug all his stuff around. This was around 1989, the location is Veemarkt in Amsterdam ('Veemarkt' is dutch for cattle market). Back then homeless people in Amsterdam were fairly rare, now there are 100's of them.
  - pen2l 5y ago
    I'm surprised that he chose to continue using your car then, because I would have thought being found out once would permanently turn him off and have him find another place. I guess you might have communicated to him that it was okay for him to use your car is a stronger way than you recall; or maybe the 80s just had a different vibe.
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      I don't think he had a whole lot of options in his life. Primarily I think he did it because he felt safe there, that area was at the time very much out of the way of traffic and apart from the occasional burglary there wasn't much crime. One funny angle is that I was living there illegally myself, I didn't have a kitchen or a place to shower there and it being so quiet is why I got away with that. The people from other companies in that building knew that I was staying there overnight, but they in turn also didn't mind because they saw me as their 'free nightwatch', so there is some recurring element in there. Anyway, it's ages ago, and if it happened today I'm not sure how I would respond, and I always wondered what happened to him but I did not see him after I moved (I went all the way to Poland). https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3679788,4.9392218,3a,75y,187.39h,82.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1st2HPCsZJP1PjwxQGBhiilQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dt2HPCsZJP1PjwxQGBhiilQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D92.120544%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3679788,4.9392218,3a,75y,187... My unit was the one one from the corner on top (the entrance was at the back), about 60 square meters, an early version of a hackerspace I guess, and the bike path on the left wasn't there at the time, that's where there was parking space. Now there are a few thousand people living on the other side of the street so you would never get away with it today anyway, someone would spot you there before the first day was out.
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dTal 5y ago
Maybe it's the pandemic heightening my senses, but it's strange to me that you wouldn't notice the smell. I can immediately tell if someone new has been in an unventilated room for, oh say a few hours afterward. There's no way I wouldn't notice someone sleeping in my car overnight, unless they went out of their way to air it out.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  You clearly have never set foot in an elderly Citroen. They are so full of holes that when it rains outside it is only marginally better inside. Ok, you have a nice fiberglass roof over you. But the bottoms of the doors are rusted out, the front vents end up directly in the engine bay (because: paper tubing, which is eaten up by insects), the wind sills don't line up with the windows and the doors close poorly. On the plus side: plenty of ventilation ;)
  - dTal 5y ago
    You are correct, I have not :) Thank you for the contextual flavor.