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How many colds have you had?

pdimitar 5y ago
Cold only very rarely kills babies. If we're going to do analogies then let's go all the way. Here on HN there was an article about how people who got through Covid were much more resistant to catching it again, compared to those who got a vaccine. It's almost as if their immune systems actually work! I despair for the people who got surprised by this, as if our immune systems became a thing only during the last 2 years. And this forum is supposed to be full of educated people. All this virtue signaling around having to take experimental vaccines is becoming very tiring.
- msinca 5y ago
  What is tiring is the insistence of folks like you completely ignoring the 650,000 deaths in the US alone. Deaths that are climbing to a rate not seen since the spike last winter yet and this recent surge could have been avoided if this vocal misinformed anti-vax minority would have protected themselves, their loved ones, and their community with a jab. So yes, the rest of us are pretty tired of the virtue signaling but not the one you think you are calling out... Ask your immune system how well it would have done vs Smallpox Diphtheria Hepatitis A&B Meningitis Measles Mumps Polio Pneumonia Rotavirus Rubella Tetanus Whooping Cough
  - pdimitar 5y ago
    That sensationalism, my friend, is why the world is divided. People keep screaming about climbing deaths but I am still not seeing it anywhere around me. At the entrance of the mall, everybody just sighs annoyed and puts on their mask, that's all that I observe and that's all that most of the populace observes as well. I have seen barely any disruption except, of course, some local businesses closing down forever. The normal folk just kept going. That's the problem with this pandemic: it became a religious war above anything else. Everyone just chose to believe a camp and went on to happily scream at the "other team" afterwards. We need an actually informed and neutral party on these matters. A lot of the agents of this system have a vested economical interest for the lockdowns to continue -- and for people to get subjected multiple times to an experimental vaccine. I got through Covid twice -- before the news even broke out (Dec 2019 and Jan 2020). And I wore a mask ever since and still do. But I have some heart problems and reading the same sources that you do -- about how almost healthy people died in a lot of pain after taking the vaccine -- I think I'll wait for a little bit, thank you very much. I am not endangering anyone and I am tired of hearing that I do. No. I really don't endanger anyone. I just don't want to be an experimental lab rat and hold on to my life for a while longer. Same goes for many others. (And btw calling people anti-vax is super flamey. This is not what's happening here at all.)
  - caeril 5y ago
    What is tiring is the insistence of folks like you completely ignoring that fully 94% of those deaths came with comorbidities, far and away dominated by 1. Old age, and 2. Obesity. We've already vaccinated nearly 90% of group #1, and continuing to gain ground. We've heard nothing but crickets about group #2. Why? I don't know. Maybe letting people die of hypoxia is better than hurting their feelings. What I do know is that "folks like you" have absolutely no interest in actually solving problems or saving lives, because if you were, you'd actually look at the god damned reality of who is dying once in a while.
nradov 5y ago
The common cold is caused by dozens of different viruses (including at least 4 coronaviruses). Gaining immunity to one of those cold viruses doesn't do much to protect against the others. https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_ca...

Cold only very rarely kills babies. If we're going to do analogies then let's go all the way. Here on HN there was an article about how people who got through Covid were much more resistant to catching it again, compared to those who got a vaccine. It's almost as if their immune systems actually work! I despair for the people who got surprised by this, as if our immune systems became a thing only during the last 2 years. And this forum is supposed to be full of educated people. All this virtue signaling around having to take experimental vaccines is becoming very tiring.

msinca 5y ago
What is tiring is the insistence of folks like you completely ignoring the 650,000 deaths in the US alone. Deaths that are climbing to a rate not seen since the spike last winter yet and this recent surge could have been avoided if this vocal misinformed anti-vax minority would have protected themselves, their loved ones, and their community with a jab. So yes, the rest of us are pretty tired of the virtue signaling but not the one you think you are calling out... Ask your immune system how well it would have done vs Smallpox Diphtheria Hepatitis A&B Meningitis Measles Mumps Polio Pneumonia Rotavirus Rubella Tetanus Whooping Cough
- pdimitar 5y ago
  That sensationalism, my friend, is why the world is divided. People keep screaming about climbing deaths but I am still not seeing it anywhere around me. At the entrance of the mall, everybody just sighs annoyed and puts on their mask, that's all that I observe and that's all that most of the populace observes as well. I have seen barely any disruption except, of course, some local businesses closing down forever. The normal folk just kept going. That's the problem with this pandemic: it became a religious war above anything else. Everyone just chose to believe a camp and went on to happily scream at the "other team" afterwards. We need an actually informed and neutral party on these matters. A lot of the agents of this system have a vested economical interest for the lockdowns to continue -- and for people to get subjected multiple times to an experimental vaccine. I got through Covid twice -- before the news even broke out (Dec 2019 and Jan 2020). And I wore a mask ever since and still do. But I have some heart problems and reading the same sources that you do -- about how almost healthy people died in a lot of pain after taking the vaccine -- I think I'll wait for a little bit, thank you very much. I am not endangering anyone and I am tired of hearing that I do. No. I really don't endanger anyone. I just don't want to be an experimental lab rat and hold on to my life for a while longer. Same goes for many others. (And btw calling people anti-vax is super flamey. This is not what's happening here at all.)
- caeril 5y ago
  What is tiring is the insistence of folks like you completely ignoring that fully 94% of those deaths came with comorbidities, far and away dominated by 1. Old age, and 2. Obesity. We've already vaccinated nearly 90% of group #1, and continuing to gain ground. We've heard nothing but crickets about group #2. Why? I don't know. Maybe letting people die of hypoxia is better than hurting their feelings. What I do know is that "folks like you" have absolutely no interest in actually solving problems or saving lives, because if you were, you'd actually look at the god damned reality of who is dying once in a while.

nradov 5y ago

The common cold is caused by dozens of different viruses (including at least 4 coronaviruses). Gaining immunity to one of those cold viruses doesn't do much to protect against the others. https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_causes https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/cold-guide/common_cold_ca...