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> Funny how all responsibility is always given to the West even when the people doing the killing are their enemies. It's barely ever given to the west, and ne

> Funny how all responsibility is always given to the West even when the people doing the killing are their enemies. It's barely ever given to the west, and never in major media. And when someone in an anonymous internet comment dares suggest we might be morally accountable for vast amounts of innocent deaths - a trifle of a blip of a nothing in the discourse - we can count on certain people getting their feewings hurt and becoming overly defensive. "I'm always being accused!" cried Tony Soprano. > No one knows with certainty how many people have been killed and wounded in Iraq since the 2003 United States invasion. However, we know that between 184,382 and 207,156 civilians have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through October 2019. [1] [1] https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/ir...

yyyk 5y ago
>It's barely ever given to the west, and never in major media You must be kidding, or never ever read any major Western media. > And when someone in an anonymous internet comment dares Oh no. Someone disagreed with you on the internet. It's horrible even thinking about this. Nobody should ever be victimized like this.
- herbst 5y ago
  Not sure what you mean with western media. But ours (Swiss) usually blames the NATO and US for their war crimes and not a generalized 'west'
adventured 5y ago
A trifle blip? Hardly. It was exhaustively covered by the largest media outlets in the US for more than a decade. It was a 24/7 talking point by everyone on the left politically from the day the US invaded Iraq until the day Bush left office. Across all forums, anywhere a comment could be posted. Google: "nytimes iraq death count" or "nytimes bush iraq civilian deaths"; or any number of dozens of variations on that same premise. You must have missed the endless media parade about the Bush death count, and deaths from drone strikes. The headlines and discussion were everywhere across social media, mainstream media, on blogs.

yyyk 5y ago

>It's barely ever given to the west, and never in major media You must be kidding, or never ever read any major Western media. > And when someone in an anonymous internet comment dares Oh no. Someone disagreed with you on the internet. It's horrible even thinking about this. Nobody should ever be victimized like this.

herbst 5y ago
Not sure what you mean with western media. But ours (Swiss) usually blames the NATO and US for their war crimes and not a generalized 'west'

adventured 5y ago

A trifle blip? Hardly. It was exhaustively covered by the largest media outlets in the US for more than a decade. It was a 24/7 talking point by everyone on the left politically from the day the US invaded Iraq until the day Bush left office. Across all forums, anywhere a comment could be posted. Google: "nytimes iraq death count" or "nytimes bush iraq civilian deaths"; or any number of dozens of variations on that same premise. You must have missed the endless media parade about the Bush death count, and deaths from drone strikes. The headlines and discussion were everywhere across social media, mainstream media, on blogs.