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Well that 24/7 db server is not going to back up itself and maintain itself when the HW fails or the power goes out. This is not trivial/cheap to assure and mai

Well that 24/7 db server is not going to back up itself and maintain itself when the HW fails or the power goes out. This is not trivial/cheap to assure and maintain. Likewise with hosting your own S3. The value is not in the HW really (and the cloud providers know this when pricing). I have this setup on AWS and look at "bringing it home" every year but the nightmare of having to assure a good level of availability is not worth the saving of a few extra $1000 per year for us at least. Completely different issues not related to your HW can happen, your office internet simply goes down or power goes out while you're on vacation etc.. At least there is major competition between a lot of cloud providers nowadays so nobody can get away with insane prices anymore. Though, would be cool to see some kind of standardised price comparision metric for medium/high complexity cloud setups. Sort of how you compare grocery prices, you have a standard purchase list.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> Well that 24/7 db server is not going to back up itself and maintain itself when the HW fails or the power goes out. Uh, yeah, that's why you pay IT people to do that sort of thing. Hiring your own will almost certainly be less expensive than paying Amazon's people, and provides you more control and more options in the event of any problems. It's not like AWS never has problems, and when it does all you can do is twiddle your thumbs until someone else fixes it.
- Daishiman 5y ago
  In what world do you live in where competent IT support for production infrastructure is cheap?
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    The one that doesn't live in SV.
hughrr 5y ago
It’s cheaper for us to bring our own staff and licenses than pay for RDS at our scale :)
- WaxProlix 5y ago
  Once you hit that point, AWS will almost always cut you some specific pricing deals to ensure that your pain point is competitively priced, since they want you in the ecosystem anyways.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

> Well that 24/7 db server is not going to back up itself and maintain itself when the HW fails or the power goes out. Uh, yeah, that's why you pay IT people to do that sort of thing. Hiring your own will almost certainly be less expensive than paying Amazon's people, and provides you more control and more options in the event of any problems. It's not like AWS never has problems, and when it does all you can do is twiddle your thumbs until someone else fixes it.

Daishiman 5y ago
In what world do you live in where competent IT support for production infrastructure is cheap?
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  The one that doesn't live in SV.

hughrr 5y ago

It’s cheaper for us to bring our own staff and licenses than pay for RDS at our scale :)

WaxProlix 5y ago
Once you hit that point, AWS will almost always cut you some specific pricing deals to ensure that your pain point is competitively priced, since they want you in the ecosystem anyways.