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Isn’t it easier to get vaxxed and reduce your chance of cytokine storm than to hope that there are existing compounds that can help repair lung damage once it’s

Isn’t it easier to get vaxxed and reduce your chance of cytokine storm than to hope that there are existing compounds that can help repair lung damage once it’s already occurring? There are already immunosuppressants that are cheap and widely available that reduce damage, and the search is on for things that inhibit viral replication. I think there is also research for universal antibodies that attack regions that are rarely mutated. Would be great if such last possibility treatments work as patients are usually post COVID by the time the lungs are shot. The course of other diseases would profit from lung repair, possibly even smoking damage.

nradov 5y ago
It's not either / or. Vaccines aren't 100% effective so we still need treatments for breakthrough cases.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Also, not everyone can be vaccinated. Even now, no one under 13 years old is vaccinated. It would be interesting if argenine supplementation reduced impact on those affected by side effects of vaccination. I don't know of any progress predicting who is (most) likely to experience side effects, or how severe they will be. Argenine supplementation is at worst perfectly safe, and cheap. We should be able to discuss side effects, anyway, and try to eliminate them, without hysteria.
  - nradov 5y ago
    There has been some preliminary research on who is most likely to experience side effects from vaccination. Adolescent males seem to be at slightly elevated risk from heart inflammation. The absolute risk is still low, but they are also at minimal risk from the virus. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v... https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advice-on-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advic...
  - prpl 5y ago
    Under 12, not 13
- belltaco 5y ago
  While you're right, unproven cures have been hyped to magical levels in order to rationalize not getting vaccinated.
  - nomel 5y ago
    The science can’t stop, or be hidden, just because of that.

nradov 5y ago

It's not either / or. Vaccines aren't 100% effective so we still need treatments for breakthrough cases.

ncmncm 5y ago
Also, not everyone can be vaccinated. Even now, no one under 13 years old is vaccinated. It would be interesting if argenine supplementation reduced impact on those affected by side effects of vaccination. I don't know of any progress predicting who is (most) likely to experience side effects, or how severe they will be. Argenine supplementation is at worst perfectly safe, and cheap. We should be able to discuss side effects, anyway, and try to eliminate them, without hysteria.
- nradov 5y ago
  There has been some preliminary research on who is most likely to experience side effects from vaccination. Adolescent males seem to be at slightly elevated risk from heart inflammation. The absolute risk is still low, but they are also at minimal risk from the virus. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v... https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advice-on-covid-19-vaccination-of-children-aged-12-to-15 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/jcvi-issues-updated-advic...
- prpl 5y ago
  Under 12, not 13
belltaco 5y ago
While you're right, unproven cures have been hyped to magical levels in order to rationalize not getting vaccinated.
- nomel 5y ago
  The science can’t stop, or be hidden, just because of that.