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This is yet another piece of compelling evidence showing that nutraceuticals can significantly reduce recovery time and improve health outcomes. Combined with

This is yet another piece of compelling evidence showing that nutraceuticals can significantly reduce recovery time and improve health outcomes. Combined with early treatment using widely available medicines, it’s clear we have a variety of tools at our disposal to mitigate this pandemic. Unfortunately many people are unaware of the evidence supporting these types of treatments, partly because they receive such little attention in mass media. As usual I’m ready for the downvotes - for some reason people here think this information is contentious or disagreeable.

ltbarcly3 5y ago
I think your analysis is a little bit vague? There are an almost unlimited number of chemicals that might be tried to treat any given disease. You can't test all of them. If you limit the chemicals to those available at a vitamin store (which is how I'm interpreting 'nutraceutical') seems like a terrible strategy for how to deploy research resources. Almost no diseases are treatable in an effective way with these chemicals, and when there are positive results in a study involving these chemicals it is almost always not reproducible or the effect of the chemical is insufficient to justify using it. The vitamins and nutrients which we have evidence there is a benefit to taking are already added to almost every food product you can buy. The only people who seem to be motivated to push this strategy are the companies which profit from selling big plastic bottles covered with the most misleading claims they can legally make, and filled with what are basically placebo pills. I'm going to go ahead and make a prediction: There is nothing you can find in a vitamin shop, taken in any amount, that will end up demonstrating sufficient benefit to the treatment of COVID that it is worth using.
- nradov 5y ago
  Have you reviewed the studies on Vitamin D? Several have shown significant benefits and the costs are low. https://vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca/ https://vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca/
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  > There is nothing you can find in a vitamin shop, taken in any amount, that will end up demonstrating sufficient benefit to the treatment of COVID that it is worth using. That's nonsense. I'd rather take a multi-vitamin or D to be in a healthy state if I do get corona later. I can pretty much guarantee that anybody in lockdown has vitamin C deficiency, which is very serious - people used to die regularly on long ship voyages. If you have bleeding gums, that's a symptom that you need vitamin C.
Jimmc414 5y ago
Upvoted. Here is a good breakdown of other contentious early Covid treatments. COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 917 studies https://c19early.com/ https://c19early.com/
- skmurphy 5y ago
  Thanks for this, it's quite well done. It's a good model for tracking an evolving understanding of what may help as the situation (and the underlying disease) continues to evolve.

ltbarcly3 5y ago

I think your analysis is a little bit vague? There are an almost unlimited number of chemicals that might be tried to treat any given disease. You can't test all of them. If you limit the chemicals to those available at a vitamin store (which is how I'm interpreting 'nutraceutical') seems like a terrible strategy for how to deploy research resources. Almost no diseases are treatable in an effective way with these chemicals, and when there are positive results in a study involving these chemicals it is almost always not reproducible or the effect of the chemical is insufficient to justify using it. The vitamins and nutrients which we have evidence there is a benefit to taking are already added to almost every food product you can buy. The only people who seem to be motivated to push this strategy are the companies which profit from selling big plastic bottles covered with the most misleading claims they can legally make, and filled with what are basically placebo pills. I'm going to go ahead and make a prediction: There is nothing you can find in a vitamin shop, taken in any amount, that will end up demonstrating sufficient benefit to the treatment of COVID that it is worth using.

nradov 5y ago
Have you reviewed the studies on Vitamin D? Several have shown significant benefits and the costs are low. https://vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca/ https://vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca/
redis_mlc 5y ago
> There is nothing you can find in a vitamin shop, taken in any amount, that will end up demonstrating sufficient benefit to the treatment of COVID that it is worth using. That's nonsense. I'd rather take a multi-vitamin or D to be in a healthy state if I do get corona later. I can pretty much guarantee that anybody in lockdown has vitamin C deficiency, which is very serious - people used to die regularly on long ship voyages. If you have bleeding gums, that's a symptom that you need vitamin C.

Jimmc414 5y ago

Upvoted. Here is a good breakdown of other contentious early Covid treatments. COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 917 studies https://c19early.com/ https://c19early.com/

skmurphy 5y ago
Thanks for this, it's quite well done. It's a good model for tracking an evolving understanding of what may help as the situation (and the underlying disease) continues to evolve.