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If this were the case, shouldn't Israel have fewer cases now? No other country has more infections per million than Israel, with a vaccination rate much higher

by jansan 5y ago

If this were the case, shouldn't Israel have fewer cases now? No other country has more infections per million than Israel, with a vaccination rate much higher than the US.

bluGill 5y ago
Illinois has already higher vaccination rate than Israel. Israel has a lot of kids (and interesting politics )
matwood 5y ago
Israel's overall vaccination rate is actually not that high. They were first out the gate, but tapered. They have also found the recent spike in cases to be focused in areas with low vaccination rates [1]. With the delta variant every unvaccinated person will likely end up becoming infected at some point. These unvaccinated pockets are where the large spikes are coming from, especially for severe disease. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1420059122725183491.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1420059122725183491.html
- jansan 5y ago
  Again, they recently had (or still have) the highest case per million rate in the world! Compare this to Palestine, with a vaccination rate of about 10% and roughly 1/40 of the cases per million. You could argue that Palestine is one big pocket of unvaccinated people. Why are the cases so much lower? And how would the situation in Israel be without vaccines? Worse than now or the same as in Palestine?
  - ckdarby 5y ago
    Different countries, different events, different cultures, etc. There is also the problem of having a sense of security when there is a large vaccinated population which causes the vaccinated population to resume a regular life. Those who are not vaccinated are now exposed to more people in general. Example, my wife and I prior to being fully vaccinated interacted with less than 10 people in the 1.5 years. We had everything delivered and had someone do our Costco shopping and drop it off at our doorstep. With us both fully vaccinated we go to Costco for our groceries and indirectly come in contact with probably 50 people in a single visit.

by jansan 5y ago

If this were the case, shouldn't Israel have fewer cases now? No other country has more infections per million than Israel, with a vaccination rate much higher than the US.

bluGill 5y ago

Illinois has already higher vaccination rate than Israel. Israel has a lot of kids (and interesting politics )

matwood 5y ago

Israel's overall vaccination rate is actually not that high. They were first out the gate, but tapered. They have also found the recent spike in cases to be focused in areas with low vaccination rates [1]. With the delta variant every unvaccinated person will likely end up becoming infected at some point. These unvaccinated pockets are where the large spikes are coming from, especially for severe disease. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1420059122725183491.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1420059122725183491.html

jansan 5y ago
Again, they recently had (or still have) the highest case per million rate in the world! Compare this to Palestine, with a vaccination rate of about 10% and roughly 1/40 of the cases per million. You could argue that Palestine is one big pocket of unvaccinated people. Why are the cases so much lower? And how would the situation in Israel be without vaccines? Worse than now or the same as in Palestine?
- ckdarby 5y ago
  Different countries, different events, different cultures, etc. There is also the problem of having a sense of security when there is a large vaccinated population which causes the vaccinated population to resume a regular life. Those who are not vaccinated are now exposed to more people in general. Example, my wife and I prior to being fully vaccinated interacted with less than 10 people in the 1.5 years. We had everything delivered and had someone do our Costco shopping and drop it off at our doorstep. With us both fully vaccinated we go to Costco for our groceries and indirectly come in contact with probably 50 people in a single visit.