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"Avoiding risky sex costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and they are refusing it. That medical treatment could go to someone responsible. Choose

"Avoiding risky sex costs nothing, has insignificant statistical risk, and they are refusing it. That medical treatment could go to someone responsible. Choose not to have safe sex, choose to die at home."

toomuchtodo 5y ago
No one gets an STD at the grocery store or their workplace from close proximity to the infected. Very few people die from STDs (comparatively speaking to COVID) and they are not overloading hospitals.
- captainredbeard 5y ago
  Well, you brought up hospital space availability as the problem, not culpability for spreading it. If we're back to talking about folks spreading it, look at the fact that the vaccine doesn't prevent spread so why are the control freaks in society trying to force this on the rest of us? Sorry, the rest of us are not going along with it just because you think it's a good idea.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    You are free to make your own choices within the bounds government policy. If that means those who choose not to vaccinate lose their jobs and are ineligible for unemployment insurance, I think that’s reasonable during a public health crisis. Even if vaccination did not reduce transmission rate, it increases survival rate in the event of infection, reducing healthcare system load. If you make a choice to unnecessarily burden a strained system, do not be surprised when that system sheds load in ways you did not expect (crisis standards of care, ie rationing [1] [2] [3]). I am exhausted that people who share your opinion are dragging the pandemic out for whatever illogical reasoning justifies the beliefs and behavior. Your rights end where someone else’s begin, but apparently these people don’t believe their rights end anywhere, regardless of the harm they cause. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/9443799... [2] https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/news/2021-09-07/idaho-activates-crisis-standards-in-north-idaho https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/news/2021-09-07/idaho-... [3] https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/2916/Statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-crisis-standards-of-care https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/2916/Statement-o...
    - furgooswft13 5y ago
      > You are free to make your own choices within the bounds government policy. You are free to make your own choices in your prison cell. > Even if vaccination did not reduce transmission rate, it increases survival rate in the event of infection Taking away ones livelihood is a great way to increase survival and improve health. > I am exhausted Authoritarianism, fascism, and doublespeak are all very exhausting indeed.
    - walterbell 5y ago
      > reducing healthcare system load Un-scientific mandates affect the supply of healthcare workers, https://tamicam.substack.com/p/are-government-vaccine-mandates-creating https://tamicam.substack.com/p/are-government-vaccine-mandat... > It's ironic that the same camp currently blaming persons with acquired (Gold standard) immunity from prior infection of Covid ... for overwhelming medical systems, when by ignoring the actual immunity status of a person, they are undermining the entire medical system? The crisis they are creating goes against every basic principle of Immunology. > Essential frontline medical workers last year are highly likely to have already been exposed to Covid at one point, so why does no one simply ask for their immune status, instead of “ Vaccine - or no job”? The vaccine does not stop transmission of the virus, as we know. Why are we instead firing all the workers who may not even have any need for the Jab at all, and aren’t willing to jeopardize their own health by taking it?
      - toomuchtodo 5y ago
        I’d argue you don’t want healthcare workers who don’t believe in vaccination practicing healthcare (90-95% of doctors are vaccinated, for comparison, versus closer to 40-50% for nurses). This is filtering out workers who should be filtered out of the healthcare labor pool, workers who would be in close proximity to patients. They’ve received other vaccinations to work [1]. They’ve been educated how vaccines work. There is no excuse for being unvaccinated as a healthcare professional. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws.html https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws....
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tehwebguy 5y ago
Do you think our ICU beds are overflowing with STD patients

toomuchtodo 5y ago

No one gets an STD at the grocery store or their workplace from close proximity to the infected. Very few people die from STDs (comparatively speaking to COVID) and they are not overloading hospitals.

captainredbeard 5y ago
Well, you brought up hospital space availability as the problem, not culpability for spreading it. If we're back to talking about folks spreading it, look at the fact that the vaccine doesn't prevent spread so why are the control freaks in society trying to force this on the rest of us? Sorry, the rest of us are not going along with it just because you think it's a good idea.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  You are free to make your own choices within the bounds government policy. If that means those who choose not to vaccinate lose their jobs and are ineligible for unemployment insurance, I think that’s reasonable during a public health crisis. Even if vaccination did not reduce transmission rate, it increases survival rate in the event of infection, reducing healthcare system load. If you make a choice to unnecessarily burden a strained system, do not be surprised when that system sheds load in ways you did not expect (crisis standards of care, ie rationing [1] [2] [3]). I am exhausted that people who share your opinion are dragging the pandemic out for whatever illogical reasoning justifies the beliefs and behavior. Your rights end where someone else’s begin, but apparently these people don’t believe their rights end anywhere, regardless of the harm they cause. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/9443799... [2] https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/news/2021-09-07/idaho-activates-crisis-standards-in-north-idaho https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/news/2021-09-07/idaho-... [3] https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/2916/Statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-crisis-standards-of-care https://www.doh.wa.gov/Newsroom/Articles/ID/2916/Statement-o...
  - furgooswft13 5y ago
    > You are free to make your own choices within the bounds government policy. You are free to make your own choices in your prison cell. > Even if vaccination did not reduce transmission rate, it increases survival rate in the event of infection Taking away ones livelihood is a great way to increase survival and improve health. > I am exhausted Authoritarianism, fascism, and doublespeak are all very exhausting indeed.
  - walterbell 5y ago
    > reducing healthcare system load Un-scientific mandates affect the supply of healthcare workers, https://tamicam.substack.com/p/are-government-vaccine-mandates-creating https://tamicam.substack.com/p/are-government-vaccine-mandat... > It's ironic that the same camp currently blaming persons with acquired (Gold standard) immunity from prior infection of Covid ... for overwhelming medical systems, when by ignoring the actual immunity status of a person, they are undermining the entire medical system? The crisis they are creating goes against every basic principle of Immunology. > Essential frontline medical workers last year are highly likely to have already been exposed to Covid at one point, so why does no one simply ask for their immune status, instead of “ Vaccine - or no job”? The vaccine does not stop transmission of the virus, as we know. Why are we instead firing all the workers who may not even have any need for the Jab at all, and aren’t willing to jeopardize their own health by taking it?
    - toomuchtodo 5y ago
      I’d argue you don’t want healthcare workers who don’t believe in vaccination practicing healthcare (90-95% of doctors are vaccinated, for comparison, versus closer to 40-50% for nurses). This is filtering out workers who should be filtered out of the healthcare labor pool, workers who would be in close proximity to patients. They’ve received other vaccinations to work [1]. They’ve been educated how vaccines work. There is no excuse for being unvaccinated as a healthcare professional. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws.html https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws....
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tehwebguy 5y ago

Do you think our ICU beds are overflowing with STD patients