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> Do you think it should be illegal for a manufacturer to implement features in their product that attempt to detect and prevent usage of the product that is da
by bambax 5y ago
> Do you think it should be illegal for a manufacturer to implement features in their product that attempt to detect and prevent usage of the product that is dangerous or harmful to the user or others?
Yes. I use knives for cooking. I could use them for butchering my neighbors but that would be none of the knives' manufacturers business.
Not just knives. Anything can be used in a dangerous or harmful way. You can suffocate someone with a pillow. So this line of reasoning leads to any company having the right (or maybe the duty?) to monitor us.
- tshaddox 5y agoSome knives intended for cooking have features deliberately intended to make them less suitable for stabbing people. Do you oppose this practice, or the legality of this practice?
- gknoy 5y agoI've never ever heard of this. Can you elaborate? I hesitate to say "citation needed" but this seems like an extraordinary claim.
- tshaddox 5y agohttps://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cutlery-firm-makes-blunt-knives-to-stop-stabbings-7kfnbm56c https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cutlery-firm-makes-blunt-... They’re not particularly popular as far as I can tell, but my point only relies on the concept itself as another example of manufacturers implementing features to attempt to influence how the product can be used.
- kelnos 5y agoAt least in that case people can (and it seems they have) vote with their wallet, and avoid the more limited "nannying" product. Given the lack of competition in things like mobile phone OSes, that's not always an option.
- cwkoss 5y agoWhat is the market for less-useful knives that can't stab? I don't understand why this product exists or who the customer is... It's still dangerous via slashing if it's at all useful for food prep
- mejutoco 5y agoI know it was just an example, but anywhere with those plastic knifes/sporks/fork-knive combinations: theme parks, school cafeterias, offices…
- rixed 5y agoVery useful for use at sea, esp in smaller sailships, where you would frequently hurt yourself or damage the furniture with pointy knives.
- ramses0 5y agoeg: kitchen knives do not usually have cross-guards, whereas a bayonet does. https://www.1911forum.com/threads/does-a-fighting-knife-need-a-cross-guard.841753/ https://www.1911forum.com/threads/does-a-fighting-knife-need... https://www.google.com/search?q=bayonet+crossguard https://www.google.com/search?q=bayonet+crossguard It's subtle, but true. I would imagine that a "kitchen knife" with a full cross-guard that was regularly carried in your belt and implicated in a crime would probably not be considered "just a kitchen knife". eg: all the rules around gun shapes, sizes, etc. etc. so they don't become "assault-style weapons" or give people impure thoughts when they're out on the shooting range. https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/748665339/the-pistol-that-looks-like-a-rifle-the-dayton-shooters-gun https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/748665339/the-pistol-that-loo...
- nl 5y agoNot quite the same thing, but ceramic cooking knives have metal inserts to make sure they show up on airport scanners.
- bambax 5y agoNot really. I mostly oppose monitoring in the name of "security". But I also prefer to be considered an adult who's not a murderer and can handle their knives without help or active supervision. So they can make "safe knives" if they wish but I would rather buy the other ones.