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The Manifesto for a Post-Materialist Science – Campaign for Open Science

1 points by graderjs 5y ago

waynecochran 5y ago
Anything that opens with the word "manifesto" and uses words that mimic critical theory like "post-materialist" immediately has me worried. The material world is the domain of scientific inquiry. There is a good reason for this since it is the domain of the falsifiable. This doesn't mean that other domains are not important, just that that do not fall in the framework of hard science. I smell an agenda.
gus_massa 5y ago
> 7 Most importantly, QM explicitly introduced the mind into its basic conceptual structure since it was found that particles being observed and the observer—the physicist and the method used for observation—are linked. Calling it "observer" was a bad decision. The measurement problem is still an open problem. Nobody likes it. Anyway, in most experiments you can replace the "observer" with a brick or other big object and get the same result. > 9 Studies of the so-called "psi phenomena" indicate that we can sometimes receive meaningful information without the use of ordinary senses, and in ways that transcend the habitual space and time constraints. > 11 Controlled laboratory experiments have documented that skilled research mediums (people who claim that they can communicate with the minds of people who have physically died) can sometimes obtain highly accurate information about deceased individuals. Just get one reliable case and win the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_... [I skipped 10, because it looks difficult to replicate.] The problem is the lack of evidence. If some of the things they describe could be testes in a reproducible and reliable way, it would be incorporated in Science very soon.
dekhn 5y ago
The scientific method presumes materialism. We cannot do non-materialistic science. It would not be science at that point.

1 points by graderjs 5y ago

Anything that opens with the word "manifesto" and uses words that mimic critical theory like "post-materialist" immediately has me worried. The material world is the domain of scientific inquiry. There is a good reason for this since it is the domain of the falsifiable. This doesn't mean that other domains are not important, just that that do not fall in the framework of hard science. I smell an agenda.

gus_massa 5y ago

> 7 Most importantly, QM explicitly introduced the mind into its basic conceptual structure since it was found that particles being observed and the observer—the physicist and the method used for observation—are linked. Calling it "observer" was a bad decision. The measurement problem is still an open problem. Nobody likes it. Anyway, in most experiments you can replace the "observer" with a brick or other big object and get the same result. > 9 Studies of the so-called "psi phenomena" indicate that we can sometimes receive meaningful information without the use of ordinary senses, and in ways that transcend the habitual space and time constraints. > 11 Controlled laboratory experiments have documented that skilled research mediums (people who claim that they can communicate with the minds of people who have physically died) can sometimes obtain highly accurate information about deceased individuals. Just get one reliable case and win the One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_... [I skipped 10, because it looks difficult to replicate.] The problem is the lack of evidence. If some of the things they describe could be testes in a reproducible and reliable way, it would be incorporated in Science very soon.

dekhn 5y ago

The scientific method presumes materialism. We cannot do non-materialistic science. It would not be science at that point.