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I thought WhatsApp is end to end encrypted, no?! The article is written confusingly. It looked as if Facebook has private keys, and WhatsApp is not end to end

by aborsy 5y ago

I thought WhatsApp is end to end encrypted, no?! The article is written confusingly. It looked as if Facebook has private keys, and WhatsApp is not end to end encrypted. But considering this: >> Those contractors, which Facebook acknowledges, reportedly spend their days sifting through content that WhatsApp users and the service's own algorithms flag. Does Facebook use automated tools and perform “Client-side Scanning” ? That also defeats the purpose of end to end encryption.

sidcool 5y ago
Same here. I think so too. It was validated by OpenWhisper systems.
- abcd_f 5y ago
  I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic, but I sure hope that you are.
  - KaiserPro 5y ago
    https://signal.org/blog/whatsapp/ https://signal.org/blog/whatsapp/ they had a business relationship for at least two years.
    - alias_neo 5y ago
      I think that's their point. Its not just that OWS validated WhatsApps algo, they WROTE it.
- TheChaplain 5y ago
  Correct, it is e2e, the messages are delivered intact to the receiver. It's just that the receivers are leaking.
- alias_neo 5y ago
  You are aware that Open Whisper Systems are the person(s)[0] who wrote WhatsApp's encryption protocol, right? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike
piva00 5y ago
Nothing stops it from sending the unencrypted version when someone reports a message they can read, it's just grabbing the plain text and sending to moderation. Completely abusable... So E2E encryption doesn't really save us here.