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1.5 isn't going to happen. I'll be happy if we manage to keep it under 3. There's no guarantee that doesn't trigger a total disaster, but it's possible it would

by eloff 5y ago

1.5 isn't going to happen. I'll be happy if we manage to keep it under 3. There's no guarantee that doesn't trigger a total disaster, but it's possible it would also just be extremely costly, damaging, and inconvenient. At some level it would be a complete and utter disaster and it's not clear where that is. I think if we could magically reach net zero tomorrow, we'd be mostly fine. Obviously instead we will continue driving full speed towards the edge of the cliff, hidden somewhere in the darkness. I hope we apply the brakes earnestly and soon.

Scarblac 5y ago
> Obviously instead we will continue driving full speed towards the edge of the cliff, As of now, we're still increasing our speed. Global CO2 emissions go up every year.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  Do you have good sources? Anything that I find says the speed of increase has been decreasing almost steadily since 2008, and 2019 had a decrease in total emissions compared to 2018 (and whatever series I find, it never goes beyond 2019).
  - eloff 5y ago
    That'd be hopeful if true. I agree the speed of increase is slowing. I'm not aware if the actual increase is now negative. That would be great news.
    - marcosdumay 5y ago
      > I'm not aware if the actual increase is now negative. Yeah, that's a single point. The overall trend looks like it's a methodology fluke, and that the real trend is of 0 growth. That's why I'm interested on more data :)
      - loopz 5y ago
        On year-by-year basis you're looking at noise. On decade basis there's mostly steady acceleration of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere: https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html Lower growth may also be corellated with human depression, strife and war. So the human systems are working against decrease of CO2 growth.

3 ms·

1.5 isn't going to happen. I'll be happy if we manage to keep it under 3. There's no guarantee that doesn't trigger a total disaster, but it's possible it would

by eloff 5y ago

Scarblac 5y ago
> Obviously instead we will continue driving full speed towards the edge of the cliff, As of now, we're still increasing our speed. Global CO2 emissions go up every year.
- marcosdumay 5y ago
  Do you have good sources? Anything that I find says the speed of increase has been decreasing almost steadily since 2008, and 2019 had a decrease in total emissions compared to 2018 (and whatever series I find, it never goes beyond 2019).
  - eloff 5y ago
    That'd be hopeful if true. I agree the speed of increase is slowing. I'm not aware if the actual increase is now negative. That would be great news.
    - marcosdumay 5y ago
      > I'm not aware if the actual increase is now negative. Yeah, that's a single point. The overall trend looks like it's a methodology fluke, and that the real trend is of 0 growth. That's why I'm interested on more data :)
      - loopz 5y ago
        On year-by-year basis you're looking at noise. On decade basis there's mostly steady acceleration of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere: https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gl_gr.html Lower growth may also be corellated with human depression, strife and war. So the human systems are working against decrease of CO2 growth.