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> Science is not the pursuit of "truth". "If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Prof. Indiana Jones Quite f
by ElFitz 5y ago
> Science is not the pursuit of "truth".
"If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Prof. Indiana Jones
Quite funny because Indiana Jones is an archaeologist.
And supposedly teaches history, which often is a form of social science.
One of these few sciences where it is commonly admitted that most evidence is tainted by biased as well as both personal and limited groups' interests.
Even taking aside the fact that it’s a fictional character invented by some people more interested in telling fun stories than anything else,
using this as a call to authority to support a view on any science is quite hilarious.
Your view on science also reminds me of how, in med school, a professor once told us "medicine is not a science; it’s an art".
Which, to me, has since been a good way to know which health professionals to stay clear of.
- scoutt 5y ago> Quite funny / quite hilarious I'm glad I made your day better by giving you some happiness. But yeah, science is not the pursuit of "truth". > call to authority Never intended to use it as a call to authority. I'm sorry you interpreted this way. Not everything I wrote is a dissertation about something. > Your view on science And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. Or are you thinking you "got me right"?
- ElFitz 5y agoOh dear. This is quite a pleasant exchange. Thank you! > And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. That "science is not the pursuit of "truth"." Now, you've got me wondering. Maybe we don't mean the same thing by "truth". To me, in this context, it would be "the most accurate and comprehensive way of explaining and understanding how the world behaves". With a focus on different domains and behaviours depending on the area. What do you mean by "truth", here?
- ElFitz 5y agoI would rather edit, but it’s too late for that. So, just to be clear, in case there is any doubt. There is no sarcasm here. I genuinely appreciate the response, and am genuinely curious. That’s all.
- CyanBird 5y agoIt is funny to say, but "Indy" is right, science more than anything else is the doctrine through which we find verifiable "facts", or maybe falsifyable? Hard to say, the philosophy of science is and endless pit for all these valiant enough to dive into it But anyhow, Id agree with your call that Medics are not scientists on the specific usage of the term, they are medical professionals and applied science people, after their university education they can then pivot into more theoretical and research oriented sub-fields of medicine, which would indeed make them more "scienc-y" on my eyes
- nradov 5y agoYour professor was at least partly correct. Evidence based medicine is the gold standard for selecting treatments. But the reality is that today we still lack clear evidence to apply in many cases, so providers have to fall back on educated guesses based on what they have empirically found to work. Much of this is tacit knowledge that can only be gained through direct experience.
- ncmncm 5y agoThus, the need to "doctor-shop" until you get to one with the requisite direct experience.