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Yes. It's called Applied science (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_science). "Applied science is the use of

by scoutt 5y ago

Yes. It's called Applied science (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_science https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_science). "Applied science is the use of the scientific method and knowledge obtained via conclusions from the method to attain practical goals. It includes a broad range of disciplines such as engineering and medicine." It's different from experimental/research science. Nothing new. > truth, to be believed, needs a theory Science is not the pursuit of "truth". "If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Prof. Indiana Jones

ncmncm 5y ago
You are confused in exactly the same way as everyone at the CDC who insisted, and continues insisting, that airborne transmission of COVID-19 does not happen.
- achenatx 5y ago
  No one is saying it cant transmit that way, just that it is likely not the predominant way. Just because something can transmit via airborne particles doesnt make it an airborne virus. This is partially because there is no strict definition for airborne virus. humans have been known to eat other humans to survive. Cannibalism isnt the predominant mechanism for nutrition. Therefore we wouldnt generally call humans cannibals.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Fine, except the statement is not true. All the cases we know about are consistent with airborne transmission. About the only disease we know of that transmits only airborne is tuberculosis. We don't need another word for tuberculosis. We have that one.
- nradov 5y ago
  You are misrepresenting the CDC's position. They have acknowledged the "potential for airborne spread". https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s1005-how-spread-covd.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s1005-how-spread-cov...
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    The CDC is sending fatally mixed messages. A few there have caught on, but apparently most have not.
ElFitz 5y ago
> Science is not the pursuit of "truth". "If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Prof. Indiana Jones Quite funny because Indiana Jones is an archaeologist. And supposedly teaches history, which often is a form of social science. One of these few sciences where it is commonly admitted that most evidence is tainted by biased as well as both personal and limited groups' interests. Even taking aside the fact that it’s a fictional character invented by some people more interested in telling fun stories than anything else, using this as a call to authority to support a view on any science is quite hilarious. Your view on science also reminds me of how, in med school, a professor once told us "medicine is not a science; it’s an art". Which, to me, has since been a good way to know which health professionals to stay clear of.
- scoutt 5y ago
  > Quite funny / quite hilarious I'm glad I made your day better by giving you some happiness. But yeah, science is not the pursuit of "truth". > call to authority Never intended to use it as a call to authority. I'm sorry you interpreted this way. Not everything I wrote is a dissertation about something. > Your view on science And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. Or are you thinking you "got me right"?
  - ElFitz 5y ago
    Oh dear. This is quite a pleasant exchange. Thank you! > And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. That "science is not the pursuit of "truth"." Now, you've got me wondering. Maybe we don't mean the same thing by "truth". To me, in this context, it would be "the most accurate and comprehensive way of explaining and understanding how the world behaves". With a focus on different domains and behaviours depending on the area. What do you mean by "truth", here?
    - ElFitz 5y ago
      I would rather edit, but it’s too late for that. So, just to be clear, in case there is any doubt. There is no sarcasm here. I genuinely appreciate the response, and am genuinely curious. That’s all.

by scoutt 5y ago

ncmncm 5y ago

You are confused in exactly the same way as everyone at the CDC who insisted, and continues insisting, that airborne transmission of COVID-19 does not happen.

achenatx 5y ago
No one is saying it cant transmit that way, just that it is likely not the predominant way. Just because something can transmit via airborne particles doesnt make it an airborne virus. This is partially because there is no strict definition for airborne virus. humans have been known to eat other humans to survive. Cannibalism isnt the predominant mechanism for nutrition. Therefore we wouldnt generally call humans cannibals.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Fine, except the statement is not true. All the cases we know about are consistent with airborne transmission. About the only disease we know of that transmits only airborne is tuberculosis. We don't need another word for tuberculosis. We have that one.
nradov 5y ago
You are misrepresenting the CDC's position. They have acknowledged the "potential for airborne spread". https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s1005-how-spread-covd.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/s1005-how-spread-cov...
- ncmncm 5y ago
  The CDC is sending fatally mixed messages. A few there have caught on, but apparently most have not.

ElFitz 5y ago

> Science is not the pursuit of "truth". "If it's truth you're looking for, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall." - Prof. Indiana Jones Quite funny because Indiana Jones is an archaeologist. And supposedly teaches history, which often is a form of social science. One of these few sciences where it is commonly admitted that most evidence is tainted by biased as well as both personal and limited groups' interests. Even taking aside the fact that it’s a fictional character invented by some people more interested in telling fun stories than anything else, using this as a call to authority to support a view on any science is quite hilarious. Your view on science also reminds me of how, in med school, a professor once told us "medicine is not a science; it’s an art". Which, to me, has since been a good way to know which health professionals to stay clear of.

scoutt 5y ago
> Quite funny / quite hilarious I'm glad I made your day better by giving you some happiness. But yeah, science is not the pursuit of "truth". > call to authority Never intended to use it as a call to authority. I'm sorry you interpreted this way. Not everything I wrote is a dissertation about something. > Your view on science And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. Or are you thinking you "got me right"?
- ElFitz 5y ago
  Oh dear. This is quite a pleasant exchange. Thank you! > And what is my "view" on science? I wrote like 3 or 4 lines of text. That "science is not the pursuit of "truth"." Now, you've got me wondering. Maybe we don't mean the same thing by "truth". To me, in this context, it would be "the most accurate and comprehensive way of explaining and understanding how the world behaves". With a focus on different domains and behaviours depending on the area. What do you mean by "truth", here?
  - ElFitz 5y ago
    I would rather edit, but it’s too late for that. So, just to be clear, in case there is any doubt. There is no sarcasm here. I genuinely appreciate the response, and am genuinely curious. That’s all.