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> CEOs are allowed to publicly state their opinion if it is in favor of left leaning positions certifications but not conservative leaning positions. No. CEOs

> CEOs are allowed to publicly state their opinion if it is in favor of left leaning positions certifications but not conservative leaning positions. No. CEOs of companies that sell to left-leaning consumers can make left-leaning posts. The same goes for the right. This has always been true.

josephcsible 5y ago
When was the last time that a CEO got canceled by right-leaning consumers for making a left-leaning post? Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts.
- b0sk 5y ago
  Donald Trump tried to cancel NFL because of black athletes kneeling for social justice and a significant percentage followed through.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    Last time I checked, the NFL still exists and kneeling for social justice still happens.
    - nradov 5y ago
      NFL revenue dropped by a quarter in 2020, however that seems to have been mostly due to the pandemic rather than politics. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/nfl-revenue-drops-from-16-billion-to-12-billion-in-2020/ https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/nfl-revenue...
    - only_as_i_fall 5y ago
      Right, but then the argument isn't that people only get canceled for conservative opinions, it's just that the left is better at it.
      - nomoreplease 5y ago
        In one case the “canceled” actually happens routinely. In the other, it’s just a loud man ranting but no one was canceled.
        only_as_i_fall 5y ago
        Sure if you don't count Colin Kaepernick as a person. Regardless I fail to see how this refutes the claim that the right also attempts to engage in "canceling" of those they disagree with but is less effective at it. For specific examples see the backlash to Gilettes 2019 commercial, or the attempted boycott of nike following their release of ads featuring Kaepernick.
- dredmorbius 5y ago
  "HERE is Your Boycott List of All of the Liberal Agenda Corporations" http://inlandnwreport.com/2021/04/08/here-is-your-boycott-list-of-all-of-the-liberal-agenda-corporations/ http://inlandnwreport.com/2021/04/08/here-is-your-boycott-li... Numerous others https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/index.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/index.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/Company-Reviews/Sonic_Review.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/Company-Reviews/Sonic_Revi... https://www.foxnews.com/tech/conservatives-call-for-paypal-boycott-after-ceo-admits-splc-helps-ban-users https://www.foxnews.com/tech/conservatives-call-for-paypal-b...
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    Who got fired as a result of any of that? My whole point was that companies are willing to fire people when their left-leaning customers boycott, but not when their right-leaning customers do.
    - quotemstr 5y ago
      Furthermore, boycotts never actually happen. Sometimes loud people on Twitter get together and create the impression that a boycott is coming, and then the company targeted blinks and does what the loud Twitter people want. But the boycotts never actually materialize, and companies that find the stones to ignore the loud Twitter people don't suffer any actual harm. Normal people tune this stuff out.
    - dredmorbius 5y ago
      Jamie Riley: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hypocrisy-right-wing-outrage-mob-gets-liberal-university-of-alabama-professor-jamie-riley-fired https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hypocrisy-right-w... University of California President Clark Kerr: https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-fbis-vendetta-against-berkeley/ https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-fbis-vendetta-against-... Nikole Hannah-Jones: https://www.wral.com/faculty-say-hannah-jones-tenure-saga-tarnished-unc-chapel-hill-reputation/19759371/ https://www.wral.com/faculty-say-hannah-jones-tenure-saga-ta... James Whitfield: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/us/texas-principal-paid-leave-crt/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/us/texas-principal-paid-leave... Strong arguments for: Dan Rather, Sarah Jeong (attempted), Quinn Norton (succeeded), Al Franken, Emily Wilder, Noah Adams, Bob Edwards, Daniel Schorr. (So many in the press. Interesting.) Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens. The Hollywood Blacklist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist Note that business itself tends to be dominated by conservatives, with some exceptions.
- void_mint 5y ago
  > When was the last time that a CEO got canceled Stop with the nonsense. A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled. > Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts. Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg. Most CEOs keep their politics mostly private. What are you even saying?
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    > A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled. What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then? > Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg. But isn't he still the CEO?
    - void_mint 5y ago
      > What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then? The same. I wanted to correct the nonsense language. You'll note I used appropriate language in my response. > But isn't he still the CEO? If he had been CEO for 6 weeks and did an unremarkable job, he certainly would've been. Given the fact that he made them a boatload of money, obviously they wouldn't fire him. If John Gibson had done anything of value and driven them to record breaking sales, they'd probably have kept him too.
- BrandoElFollito 5y ago
  Maybe it is simply because the right-leaning ones are worse? (I am French, we do not care what our CEOs say about non business things as personal beliefs, or with whom they sleep, or which church they attend our not - so this is just a genuine comment on one possibility)

josephcsible 5y ago

When was the last time that a CEO got canceled by right-leaning consumers for making a left-leaning post? Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts.

b0sk 5y ago
Donald Trump tried to cancel NFL because of black athletes kneeling for social justice and a significant percentage followed through.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Last time I checked, the NFL still exists and kneeling for social justice still happens.
  - nradov 5y ago
    NFL revenue dropped by a quarter in 2020, however that seems to have been mostly due to the pandemic rather than politics. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/nfl-revenue-drops-from-16-billion-to-12-billion-in-2020/ https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/11/nfl-revenue...
  - only_as_i_fall 5y ago
    Right, but then the argument isn't that people only get canceled for conservative opinions, it's just that the left is better at it.
    - nomoreplease 5y ago
      In one case the “canceled” actually happens routinely. In the other, it’s just a loud man ranting but no one was canceled.
      - only_as_i_fall 5y ago
        Sure if you don't count Colin Kaepernick as a person. Regardless I fail to see how this refutes the claim that the right also attempts to engage in "canceling" of those they disagree with but is less effective at it. For specific examples see the backlash to Gilettes 2019 commercial, or the attempted boycott of nike following their release of ads featuring Kaepernick.
dredmorbius 5y ago
"HERE is Your Boycott List of All of the Liberal Agenda Corporations" http://inlandnwreport.com/2021/04/08/here-is-your-boycott-list-of-all-of-the-liberal-agenda-corporations/ http://inlandnwreport.com/2021/04/08/here-is-your-boycott-li... Numerous others https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/index.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/index.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/Company-Reviews/Sonic_Review.html https://www.cancelthiscompany.com/Company-Reviews/Sonic_Revi... https://www.foxnews.com/tech/conservatives-call-for-paypal-boycott-after-ceo-admits-splc-helps-ban-users https://www.foxnews.com/tech/conservatives-call-for-paypal-b...
- josephcsible 5y ago
  Who got fired as a result of any of that? My whole point was that companies are willing to fire people when their left-leaning customers boycott, but not when their right-leaning customers do.
  - quotemstr 5y ago
    Furthermore, boycotts never actually happen. Sometimes loud people on Twitter get together and create the impression that a boycott is coming, and then the company targeted blinks and does what the loud Twitter people want. But the boycotts never actually materialize, and companies that find the stones to ignore the loud Twitter people don't suffer any actual harm. Normal people tune this stuff out.
  - dredmorbius 5y ago
    Jamie Riley: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hypocrisy-right-wing-outrage-mob-gets-liberal-university-of-alabama-professor-jamie-riley-fired https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/hypocrisy-right-w... University of California President Clark Kerr: https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-fbis-vendetta-against-berkeley/ https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-fbis-vendetta-against-... Nikole Hannah-Jones: https://www.wral.com/faculty-say-hannah-jones-tenure-saga-tarnished-unc-chapel-hill-reputation/19759371/ https://www.wral.com/faculty-say-hannah-jones-tenure-saga-ta... James Whitfield: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/us/texas-principal-paid-leave-crt/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/02/us/texas-principal-paid-leave... Strong arguments for: Dan Rather, Sarah Jeong (attempted), Quinn Norton (succeeded), Al Franken, Emily Wilder, Noah Adams, Bob Edwards, Daniel Schorr. (So many in the press. Interesting.) Salvador Guillermo Allende Gossens. The Hollywood Blacklist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_blacklist Note that business itself tends to be dominated by conservatives, with some exceptions.
void_mint 5y ago
> When was the last time that a CEO got canceled Stop with the nonsense. A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled. > Most companies sell to both left-leaning and right-leaning consumers, but people only seem to get canceled over right-leaning posts. Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg. Most CEOs keep their politics mostly private. What are you even saying?
- josephcsible 5y ago
  > A CEO was fired. Nobody was cancelled. What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then? > Elon Musk smoked a single joint and his board did an executive reorg. But isn't he still the CEO?
  - void_mint 5y ago
    > What would the answer be if you replaced "canceled" with "fired" in my comment then? The same. I wanted to correct the nonsense language. You'll note I used appropriate language in my response. > But isn't he still the CEO? If he had been CEO for 6 weeks and did an unremarkable job, he certainly would've been. Given the fact that he made them a boatload of money, obviously they wouldn't fire him. If John Gibson had done anything of value and driven them to record breaking sales, they'd probably have kept him too.
BrandoElFollito 5y ago
Maybe it is simply because the right-leaning ones are worse? (I am French, we do not care what our CEOs say about non business things as personal beliefs, or with whom they sleep, or which church they attend our not - so this is just a genuine comment on one possibility)