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I love this as an idea, but I suspect as a user, I would use either zero or one posts. I do like the idea that the platform can actively disrupt the "addictive

• Y_Y 5y ago
  What about a low-bandwidth Twitter, where posts load immediately, but at 2e-3 bits per second, so that it takes two weeks to load the whole thing.
  • itisit 5y ago
    Call it "Loris"
  • rzzzt 5y ago
    The combination of your ideas would be Mars rover Twitter: 5-20 minutes propagation delay, 160-800 bps bandwidth using the X-Band High-Gain Antenna - https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/communications/ https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/spacecraft/rover/communicatio...
• Beaver117 5y ago
  For the last one: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/
• 0-_-0 5y ago
  The latency idea actually makes a lot of sense
  • woko 5y ago
    I emulate it by deactivating as many notifications as possible, and manually checking replies after a few days or weeks, when I remember. I have noticed that what was a "hot" discussion often becomes pointless and laughable after enough time has elapsed. I usually don't feel the need to reply to these old bickerings anymore.
• simias 5y ago
  I really like like the idea of a "high latency" social network, effectively bringing back the feeling of old snail mail (but more public). 2 weeks seems unnecessarily extreme to me though, even 24h would probably be enough to severely limit the flame potential. It would also potentially mean that one could have a daily routine of checking for the new content and replies and writing your own stuff and you're good to go for the day. Although to really be effective I think it'd have to work on a global tick (i.e., all new content is published once a day at a certain time). Otherwise the new content would still slowly drip continuously and you'd still have the addictive nature of social networks. At this point I'm sort of reinventing a collaborative version of a newspaper.
  • britch 5y ago
    I like the "collaborative-newspaper" idea a lot. Though I haven't used it much, this sounds like substack + RSS, that only refreshes once a day. It's missing some interactivity I suppose
    • ddalex 5y ago
      Thus usenet was reinvented
    • krisroadruck 5y ago
      I bought newsto.me like a decade ago with a plan to build a collaborative news site complete with gamification to really help the collaborative bit (eg one user writes a bit about a house fire happening, a photog in the area could earn points for snapping a photo and adding it to the story) Never found sufficient time/motivation to execute on it. Still think it would be kinda cool though.
  • Infernal 5y ago
    I’ve considered something similar, call it The Morning Post or some such. Choose your delivery/send time, and all your content gets posted (and all previously posted content gets revealed to you). Put some sane limit on the number of times you can change your post/delivery time (once a day?).
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• dunnevens 5y ago
  Regarding high latency twitter: maybe someone should make FidoNet.social. For those who don't remember, back in the early 90's your local BBS's might offer message boards connected to the rest of the US/world. Not a continuous connection. Every day at 2 AM (or whenever), your favorite BBS would dial into some remote node and sync messages. Practical effect was a roughly 24-48 (or more) hour wait for responses. Didn't stop bickering though. I was quite young at the time. Asked some question about a game. The first response was fairly hostile. Which started an argument. My first time flamed online, and my first online argument. Which went very slowly. Still, slow social media would be interesting. I kinda like the FidoNet model. Where syncing only happens once a day. Maybe only at a set time overnight. Faster than snailmail but you have the full day to type out your response about why Ultima V did not suck as your opponent claimed. With the ability to submit a post any time, but also with the ability to edit it until sync. I think it would encourage long posting more than the current systems. Which may or may not be a good thing.
  • hkt 5y ago
    I've always wondered about the practicality of doing something like fidonet over AX25/some other packet radio system. It'd be fabulous to be able to ditch the internet and participate in something slower and more humane. Your post has reminded me of that ambition. These days, I'd love an e-ink display to accompany it. Slow computing!
    • int_19h 5y ago
      With AREDN, you get a whole TCP/IP ecosystem to play with. This could then be used to run protocols like UUCP or NNTP, that are tailored to disconnected scenarios. https://arednmesh.readthedocs.io/ https://arednmesh.readthedocs.io/
  • int_19h 5y ago
    FidoNet didn't really mandate syncing once per day. It required the nodes to sync at least that often, and established a common hour for each zone to allow direct node-to-node connections for that purpose; but even in late 90s, larger nodes would already sync more often in practice. FWIW FidoNet is still around, although most connections seem to be over IP these days.
• villasv 5y ago
  > high latency Twitter This seems easy enough for current twitter-fediverse-clones to implement.
• kripy 5y ago
  > Clearly just for entertainment and not information Facebook alternative, in which GPT bots produce a significant fraction of posts, impersonating users and making stuff up. Everyone quickly learns you can't trust it, but it can still be cute/fun/humorous. Billy Chasen developed faux-social network called Botnet. Unfortunately, it looks like it's gone and I doubt that name would have lasted long in the App store let alone how he managed to get it through. https://www.wired.com/story/botnet-social-network-where-everyones-influencer/ https://www.wired.com/story/botnet-social-network-where-ever...
• dylan604 5y ago
  >- Clearly just for entertainment and not information Facebook alternative, in which GPT bots produce a significant fraction of posts, impersonating users and making stuff up. Everyone quickly learns you can't trust it, but it can still be cute/fun/humorous. Aren't we pretty much there now with a so many bots posting?
  • abeppu 5y ago
    I think a bunch of people still credulously believe most of what they read. But if some days the bot actively impersonated _you_, and people reacted to stuff it said on your behalf, I think you'd have to grok pretty quickly that a lot of content is fake. So let's do that for every user, unpredictably, a reasonable percentage of the time.
    • dylan604 5y ago
      scorched earth, why not? I think this is just about right though. Humans were not ready for social media, so burn it to the ground. however, if what the bot says on my behalf brings disrupte to my name, no repurcursions should be bestowed on me.
• aymendjellal 5y ago
  For the twitter latency Have you tried slowly.app? It's an app that simulates snail mail Pairs you with someone based on your preferences and you can write them a letter / email that will be delivered in a few hours / days, based on your distance with said person
  • akamaozu 5y ago
    Was really into slowly.app for a while, and pleasantly surprised to see it suggested here. I would recommend it to anyone looking to experiment with a "high latency social network".
• fogof 5y ago
  Let me take this chance to mention the "Unhook" Youtube browser extension, which I recently added and which I think has been having a big positive effect for me. The extension allows you to remove (among other things, it's very customizable) the sidebar of suggested videos from Youtube. This extension has been more effective for me than any other at cutting down how much youtube I watch. Maybe the biggest factor in this is that it doesn't ban me from youtube entirely - When I've tried extensions like that in the past, I've always ended up uninstalling the extension when I needed to watch a youtube video for work. This way, I can watch a little, but the lack of constant new recommendations keeps me from spending hours and hours on the site.
  • lolinder 5y ago
    Seconded, but just a note that if you're using ublock origin you can just block the sidebar with a content filter. I've blocked the sidebar and the comments section. The former has dramatically reduced the amount of time I spend on YouTube. The latter has dramatically reduced my exposure to the inanity of the YouTube comments section. Both are huge quality of life improvements.
• billpg 5y ago
  Usenet used to be like this for me. With high cost dialup, I'd download batches of posts, read them and respond offline, uploading my responses at the same time I download the following day's batch.
• _tom_ 5y ago
  So, Facebook? :-)
• exporectomy 5y ago
  The trouble with making a worse option is that people still have choice and will simply use the more entertaining version instead. You can't just make a new social network that's not as engaging as the existing ones because nobody would use it. The moment you're really curious about the thing being hidden from you in the degraded service, you'll sneak a look at the real one to find out. If you had so much self control that you don't, then why do you even need a service for it? Just limit the number of hours you spend on social media yourself.
  • PebblesRox 5y ago
    In this case the community would be a self-selecting group of people with self control and a value for more thoughtful communication. The resulting content would presumably be different from what you'd get if you just viewed mainstream social media on a restricted schedule.
• franga2000 5y ago
  +1 for the high latency idea. I recently witnessed a really bad screaming match on an NGO mailing list between a bunch of anti-vaxxers and, for lack of a better term, the reasonable people. Emails were flying at a rate of 1 every few minutes for long into the nights. What ended up solving it was appointing a moderator that has to approve all the posts beffore they go out. They don't actually block any, they just have to press the approve button. This meant that it usually takes anywhere from half a day to 2 days for a post to go through, so people started thinking a lot more about what they posted and what they read. It became not only slower, but a more civilised and though-out discussion.
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