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This is a hit for US cultural dominance and influence. Americans and Brits, at least in average watch time, are now consuming media ultimately controlled by th
by tarkin2 5y ago
This is a hit for US cultural dominance and influence.
Americans and Brits, at least in average watch time, are now consuming media ultimately controlled by the Chinese government.
And the previous election was influenced by a foreign government using American social media networks to influence, not to mention influencing the president-elect directly.
Either America's own social networks are used against them or social networks controlled by other countries are gaining dominance.
It seems nothing other than a decline in American influence in the world. And it comes from other countries outperforming the Americans.
Whether America reacts to this or ignores it through the arrogance of the current greatest will define American power in the world for generations.
- nova22033 5y agoThis is a bit of hit for US cultural dominance and influence. How so? Almost everything I watch on tiktok is made by American content creators..Is TikTok proper even available to Chinese residents?
- disgruntledphd2 5y agoNope, there's a different app for China, called Douyin I believe.
- tarkin2 5y agoAnd is ultimately controlled by the Chinese government
- im3w1l 5y agoLet's say one American says "China good" another American says "China bad". TikTok can make sure that former gets more views.
- justicezyx 5y agoAnd we all know that that's not what happens now on any major non Chinese media platforms. The reality is that most of these platforms demonize China good contents and their creators, applying double standards https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-01-22/YouTubers-under-fire-for-pro-China-content-talk-back--XgtXt9xHmo/index.html https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-01-22/YouTubers-under-fire-f...
- ascii232425 5y agoCGTN is Chinese State Owned btw.
- justicezyx 5y agoSo they are the best candidate to point out the Western media's double standards, right? There is no better assuser of the villain than the victims...
- webmobdev 5y agoIt's all about controlling the distribution of the media. The media content doesn't matter if it doesn't reach the audience at all.
- simiones 5y ago> And the previous election was heavily influenced by a foreign government using American social media networks to influence. Heavily influenced is a massive overstatement. Russia spent less money on US election influence than most individual mega-churches.
- tarkin2 5y agoYou’ve found those figures from the transparent and independent Russian statistics department giving the figures in roubles?
- ipaddr 5y agoThe cost to hack hilary's unauthorized personal email server could not have been that high.
- refenestrator 5y agoHillary didn't get hacked, it was one of the other people in her circle who got phished. John podesta I think? Anyways. Yeah, phished. Maybe it's super secret agents or maybe it was a teenager from 4chan.
- ipaddr 5y agoBoth happened. The spearfishing John Podestra gmail hack was separate. The Hilary personal email server used for government business that contained classified information that was illegal was hacked by Russian agents the fbi alledged.
- refenestrator 5y agoFYI, putting in heavy partisan asides in comments hurts credibility with neutral readers. I think you're confusing the DNC and campaign server hacks with Hillary's personal server she used while at State. No indications her personal server was hacked: https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/18/mueller-clinton-arizona-hack/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/18/mueller-clinton-arizona-ha...
- RobLach 5y agoEven on TikTok American culture dominantly permeates worldwide. Chinese TikTok is a bit more moated.
- dredmorbius 5y agoProduction and selection are distinct acts. Selection is control.
- curiousllama 5y agoSpotify and Pandora dominated music streaming for years, while based in Europe. Nonetheless, I wouldn’t say they were indicative of a decline in American influence. Other countries’ companies can succeed whiteout diminishing America. Even China’s.
- mastazi 5y agoTangentially related, I wish Pandora was still a thing, I used to love it. Currently pandora.com redirects to a 404 page when viewed from outside the US [1] [1] https://help.pandora.com/s/login/?language=en_US&startURL=%2Fcustomer%2Fportal%2Farticles%2F2830912%3Futm_campaign%3DANZ%2BShutdown%26utm_medium%3Dbitly%26utm_source%3DTwitter&ec=302&inst=1W https://help.pandora.com/s/login/?language=en_US&startURL=%2...
- hypothesis 5y agoWere they not acquired by SiriusXM a few years ago? Which would mean that they weren’t doing too well anyway.
- sjg007 5y agoI thought Pandora started out of Oakland.
- justicezyx 5y ago> Americans and Brits, at least in average watch time, are now consuming media ultimately controlled by the Chinese government. That's a good thing, they will learn quickly why mass media monopoly is bad, when they now have the fear that drive them to actually look at the giant monsters...
- dredmorbius 5y agoThe unfortunate thing is that monopoly often comes with control. In the face of an overwhelming US monopoly of popular entertainment --- cinema, television, music, comics, and books --- the rest of the world ... had relatively little power. Yes, there are localised (and often government-supported / encouraged / incentivised) instances of each. But it was US pop culture that defined the direction and movement from the 1950s onward. (For the pedants, 1) I love you, you're my third favourite people, except on the second Thursday of the month, and 2) "defined" != "there were no other influences.)
- tehjoker 5y agoChill out bro. America isn't even good.