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I'm not assuming anything, I'm just enjoying the frankness. "I support corporations against the governments I don't like" is a really refreshing piece of hones

I'm not assuming anything, I'm just enjoying the frankness. "I support corporations against the governments I don't like" is a really refreshing piece of honesty, and not what most people would be brave enough to say. I'm trying to become less principled and more pragmatic myself when it comes to politics.

ineedasername 5y ago
How is it less principled when just about any principle at all will require a variety of actions depending on circumstances? Most notably, that you go about things normally when the principle isn't being violated, (a country isn't authoritarian) and take appropriate action when it is (The country murders journalists and political opponents)
- buran77 5y ago
  Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? What about "Guantanamo"? Or "bombing schools and hospitals"? If you find a "but" in there you can already tell what "less principled" means. Sure, Google doesn't intervene directly in any of this but they would certainly cooperate if asked. And they keep working with that government. What's the common principle besides profit and allegiance?
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? Each person decides on their principles. Are you making the argument that it is impossible for anyone to be truly principled, without compromise?
    - buran77 5y ago
      No, I'm arguing that if these "principles" are tied to profit or allegiance (the "who" rather than the "what") [0] then it kind of chips away at their value. All the way down to nothing. [0] https://64.media.tumblr.com/864c839058d5319d8b1333e613cac53c/tumblr_nkdjhspeoX1rwkrdbo1_1280.jpg https://64.media.tumblr.com/864c839058d5319d8b1333e613cac53c...
kadoban 5y ago
I don't see it as being less principled then, it's just a less simplistic principle.
- LAC-Tech 5y ago
  I think strong principles are by their definition simplistic. As soon as you start having multiple clauses and subclauses, they become weak - and sometimes transparent.
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ineedasername 5y ago

How is it less principled when just about any principle at all will require a variety of actions depending on circumstances? Most notably, that you go about things normally when the principle isn't being violated, (a country isn't authoritarian) and take appropriate action when it is (The country murders journalists and political opponents)

buran77 5y ago
Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? What about "Guantanamo"? Or "bombing schools and hospitals"? If you find a "but" in there you can already tell what "less principled" means. Sure, Google doesn't intervene directly in any of this but they would certainly cooperate if asked. And they keep working with that government. What's the common principle besides profit and allegiance?
- ineedasername 5y ago
  Is the principle strictly "murdered journalists"? Each person decides on their principles. Are you making the argument that it is impossible for anyone to be truly principled, without compromise?
  - buran77 5y ago
    No, I'm arguing that if these "principles" are tied to profit or allegiance (the "who" rather than the "what") [0] then it kind of chips away at their value. All the way down to nothing. [0] https://64.media.tumblr.com/864c839058d5319d8b1333e613cac53c/tumblr_nkdjhspeoX1rwkrdbo1_1280.jpg https://64.media.tumblr.com/864c839058d5319d8b1333e613cac53c...

kadoban 5y ago

I don't see it as being less principled then, it's just a less simplistic principle.

LAC-Tech 5y ago
I think strong principles are by their definition simplistic. As soon as you start having multiple clauses and subclauses, they become weak - and sometimes transparent.
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