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$5k total. That’s his salary. They make maybe $40k before tax on a good year, over the two of them, him and his wife who works as a preschool teacher. They’re b

$5k total. That’s his salary. They make maybe $40k before tax on a good year, over the two of them, him and his wife who works as a preschool teacher. They’re both almost at retirement age at this point and are going to work until they die.

tmmx 5y ago
5k is a lot in Kazakhstan. (Just noticed the username)
- uzakov 5y ago
  It is not actually, about $416 per month or 176k tenge (local currency) per month. A cook in Almaty, KZ can make between 170-350k according to the local job board https://almaty.hh.kz/search/vacancy?st=searchVacancy&L_profession_id=27.13&area=160&no_magic=true&text=Повар-кондитер https://almaty.hh.kz/search/vacancy?st=searchVacancy&L_profe... EDIT: Not saying its nothing, good money but to call it a lot would be an overstretch imho
  - Ma8ee 5y ago
    No, but 5k in Kazakhstan tells a completely different story than 5k in the US.
France_is_bacon 5y ago
Then that dude should legit go out of business and get a job as a janitor for $16,000 per year.
- desmosxxx 5y ago
  exactly. we should strive to replace all businesses with chains and large corporations. /s heck maybe by then they can just automate away the jobs too
  - France_is_bacon 5y ago
    Yeah. Real nice to go to the extremes. What's next on your argument list...that we should all kill ourselves and there won't be any supply and demand and therefore have a permanent solution? No. What I am saying is that if you are only earning $5,000 per year, you should go out of business, because clearly, that person is a horrible business person. Maybe he is not doing any marketing. Maybe horrible food with substandard ingredients. Maybe he never heard of the maxim "location, location, location." Maybe he never cleans the restaurant and it is a filthy mess and has a filthy bathroom (I've been to restaurants like this, and immediately walk out - if they can't clean the bathroom, what does their kitchen look like?). Maybe he spending extravagantly on stuff that doesn't make a difference. Maybe he has too many employees. I used to live in San Francisco, which is a real foodie town. People go out to the restaurants all the time - plenty of people, and lots and lots of small restaurants. And there were restaurants opening and closing all the time, and there were restaurants that have been open for 100 years. The restaurant business is one of the most unforgiving industries that one can get into. But, there is no reason at all to go out of business, unless one needs to go out of business because they are a shitty business person, or if tastes and mores have changed, whatever. Only chains and large corporations /s

tmmx 5y ago

5k is a lot in Kazakhstan. (Just noticed the username)

uzakov 5y ago
It is not actually, about $416 per month or 176k tenge (local currency) per month. A cook in Almaty, KZ can make between 170-350k according to the local job board https://almaty.hh.kz/search/vacancy?st=searchVacancy&L_profession_id=27.13&area=160&no_magic=true&text=Повар-кондитер https://almaty.hh.kz/search/vacancy?st=searchVacancy&L_profe... EDIT: Not saying its nothing, good money but to call it a lot would be an overstretch imho
- Ma8ee 5y ago
  No, but 5k in Kazakhstan tells a completely different story than 5k in the US.

France_is_bacon 5y ago

Then that dude should legit go out of business and get a job as a janitor for $16,000 per year.

desmosxxx 5y ago
exactly. we should strive to replace all businesses with chains and large corporations. /s heck maybe by then they can just automate away the jobs too
- France_is_bacon 5y ago
  Yeah. Real nice to go to the extremes. What's next on your argument list...that we should all kill ourselves and there won't be any supply and demand and therefore have a permanent solution? No. What I am saying is that if you are only earning $5,000 per year, you should go out of business, because clearly, that person is a horrible business person. Maybe he is not doing any marketing. Maybe horrible food with substandard ingredients. Maybe he never heard of the maxim "location, location, location." Maybe he never cleans the restaurant and it is a filthy mess and has a filthy bathroom (I've been to restaurants like this, and immediately walk out - if they can't clean the bathroom, what does their kitchen look like?). Maybe he spending extravagantly on stuff that doesn't make a difference. Maybe he has too many employees. I used to live in San Francisco, which is a real foodie town. People go out to the restaurants all the time - plenty of people, and lots and lots of small restaurants. And there were restaurants opening and closing all the time, and there were restaurants that have been open for 100 years. The restaurant business is one of the most unforgiving industries that one can get into. But, there is no reason at all to go out of business, unless one needs to go out of business because they are a shitty business person, or if tastes and mores have changed, whatever. Only chains and large corporations /s