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"Sorry, WaterBear is not available in your country yet but we hope to be there soon!" I guess I'll keep pirating.
by madmulita 5y ago
"Sorry, WaterBear is not available in your country yet but we hope to be there soon!"
I guess I'll keep pirating.
- smhg 5y ago> Watch hundreds of award-winning documentaries, anywhere, for free It would be nice if they removed 'anywhere' in that case.
- dmitriid 5y agoI mean, isn't the US "anywhere"? The world doesn't exist outside the US
- unixhero 5y agoGet a wireguard vpn from mulvad.
- kleiba 5y agoInteresting thought: isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? Can you even "pirate" something that is offered free (just not to you)?
- throwawayswede 5y ago> isn't using a vpn a form of pirating? sorry, what?
- kleiba 5y agoSorry, of course I did not mean in general but only in this specific context where the purpose is to spoof your location in order to circumvent location-based restrictions.
- peakaboo 5y agoNo a vpn gives you an ip number in the country where the vpn provider has servers. Makes it appear as if you are accessing the internet from that country. I don't have moral issues with it whatsoever.
- yissp 5y agoMorally of course I agree, I think the parent was wondering if this technically violates copyright law, though. It seems like it might if WaterBear doesn't have the right to distribute their content in your country for whatever reason.
- thanksforfish 5y agoRight. Content creator: Can you distribute my content? Only in $list-of-countries though. Distributor: Sure. If the distributor permits VPNs, how are they sure they are authorized to distribute?
- 3np 5y agoMore likely: Content creator: Can you distribute my content everywhere? Distributor: Sure. But because of $reasons, it will only be $list-of-countries
- thanksforfish 5y agoLegal and moral definition of piracy vary. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_piracy Unfortunately, if you don't have permission to download then you may be committing piracy. In this case, entire countries apparently don't have permission. If the system is guessing location based on IP address, then granting permission based on that guess, then I expect their permission grant should be valid. How would a user know that they have bugs in their permission system? If you connect directly first, are told "no", then bypass the system with a VPN: You probably understand that you aren't supposed to have access. What will happen if you commit this type of piracy? I don't think there's a loss of revenue, or damages so pursuing pirates likely isn't worth it. Obligatory, I am not a lawyer.
- 3np 5y agoPretty much. Intent matters. If you connect over a VPN with the purpose of circumventing geoblocking, it could be judged equivalent to copyright infringement in many jurisdictions. If you just default to connect over VPN and weren’t aware that by doing so you now have access to content you otherwise would not be allowed to access in your area, you’re in the clear.
- mrzool 5y agoWhich country are you connecting from?
- EB-Barrington 5y agoSame for me. Message appears right on the front page.
- scoopertrooper 5y ago> Where is WaterBear available? > WaterBear is available in Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bermuda, Bonaire, Bulgaria, Canada, Cook Islands, Croatia, Cyprus, Czechia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Kenya, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Mozambique, New Zealand, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and the USA. This will hopefully save some people a click.
- anarchogeek 5y agoYet they don't even SAY that if you're not in one of those countries.
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