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There’s a huge distance between triage when resources are limited and refusing to treat patients. Many health issues are self-inflicted through poor lifestyle h

There’s a huge distance between triage when resources are limited and refusing to treat patients. Many health issues are self-inflicted through poor lifestyle habits despite patients knowing better.

csdreamer7 5y ago
Agreed. Missed that part from the top parent comment.
France_is_bacon 5y ago
That is 100% true. However, this is a unique situation. This is an acute situation, and not because of long-term things, or one-off problems. Wingsuiting is a poor life choice, given the high death rate of people who do it, but to compare wingsuit deaths of 5 deaths per year to the Covid virus that has killed almost a million people in the USA since it started - that is a weird comparison that you gave. There are already a ton of hospitals who refuse to treat people who refuse to get the Covid vaccine, and rightly so. And, as far as treating them, fine, but if someone comes into the hospital other then non-vacccine, non-mask, taking ivermectin - then they immediately get bumped down the list by ANYONE else who needs treatment. Let them lie on the floor against the walls in the hall until doctors treat everyone else and have time for them again. Because these people are the same exact people that we see all the videos about - screaming and yelling in stores, airplanes, Trump rallies, the insurrection at the Capitol, saying how masks don't work or are bad. Then the bitch and whine when they get it and expect treatment, after all their toxic behavior. I have a folder where I track all the a-holes that were radio hosts who said covid is not real, and then they get it and change their tune and say it is and that they should have taken the vaccine, and now recommend everyone to take it. Sorry man, day late and a dollar short - you don't get a bed, f you. That's my opinion.
- votepaunchy 5y ago
  > There are already a ton of hospitals who refuse to treat people who refuse to get the Covid vaccine, and rightly so. Citation needed. Many hospitals are delaying some elective surgeries, but is even one hospital refusing all treatment to anyone who is unvaccinated?
  - France_is_bacon 5y ago
    https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-doctor-refuses-treat-unvaccinated-covid-patients-1620328 https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-doctor-refuses-treat-unvacc... https://www.thv11.com/article/news/verify/yes-a-private-care-doctor-can-refuse-treatment-if-patient-isnt-vaccinated/91-614b7d30-c72f-4456-9f5a-fe52e94bf6ee https://www.thv11.com/article/news/verify/yes-a-private-care... https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-sydneysiders-could-be-banned-from-pubs-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine-20210118 https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-sydneysiders-could-be-b...
- nradov 5y ago
  That is simply a lie. Due to EMTALA, hospitals with ERs are legally required to treat unstable patients regardless of vaccination status. (I do recommend that everyone get vaccinated if they can.)

csdreamer7 5y ago

Agreed. Missed that part from the top parent comment.

France_is_bacon 5y ago

That is 100% true. However, this is a unique situation. This is an acute situation, and not because of long-term things, or one-off problems. Wingsuiting is a poor life choice, given the high death rate of people who do it, but to compare wingsuit deaths of 5 deaths per year to the Covid virus that has killed almost a million people in the USA since it started - that is a weird comparison that you gave. There are already a ton of hospitals who refuse to treat people who refuse to get the Covid vaccine, and rightly so. And, as far as treating them, fine, but if someone comes into the hospital other then non-vacccine, non-mask, taking ivermectin - then they immediately get bumped down the list by ANYONE else who needs treatment. Let them lie on the floor against the walls in the hall until doctors treat everyone else and have time for them again. Because these people are the same exact people that we see all the videos about - screaming and yelling in stores, airplanes, Trump rallies, the insurrection at the Capitol, saying how masks don't work or are bad. Then the bitch and whine when they get it and expect treatment, after all their toxic behavior. I have a folder where I track all the a-holes that were radio hosts who said covid is not real, and then they get it and change their tune and say it is and that they should have taken the vaccine, and now recommend everyone to take it. Sorry man, day late and a dollar short - you don't get a bed, f you. That's my opinion.

votepaunchy 5y ago
> There are already a ton of hospitals who refuse to treat people who refuse to get the Covid vaccine, and rightly so. Citation needed. Many hospitals are delaying some elective surgeries, but is even one hospital refusing all treatment to anyone who is unvaccinated?
- France_is_bacon 5y ago
  https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-doctor-refuses-treat-unvaccinated-covid-patients-1620328 https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-doctor-refuses-treat-unvacc... https://www.thv11.com/article/news/verify/yes-a-private-care-doctor-can-refuse-treatment-if-patient-isnt-vaccinated/91-614b7d30-c72f-4456-9f5a-fe52e94bf6ee https://www.thv11.com/article/news/verify/yes-a-private-care... https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-sydneysiders-could-be-banned-from-pubs-if-they-dont-get-covid-vaccine-20210118 https://www.ladbible.com/news/latest-sydneysiders-could-be-b...
nradov 5y ago
That is simply a lie. Due to EMTALA, hospitals with ERs are legally required to treat unstable patients regardless of vaccination status. (I do recommend that everyone get vaccinated if they can.)