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> - Nic never held a clearance, and as a result was never actually involved or aware of most of the programs that he intended to impact I honestly don't know h
by hiram112 5y ago
> - Nic never held a clearance, and as a result was never actually involved or aware of most of the programs that he intended to impact
I honestly don't know how he'd ever expect to succeed in a job like this without a clearance. Without it, he'd have little practical knowledge of how the actual air gapped networks (SIPR, JWICS, etc.) are designed and implemented.
Even if he didn't know the classified technical details, there's a lot of differences between deploying software in these environments vs the wide open public internet.
From experience, the type of exploits that would be devastating to a big company just aren't a big risk for most apps on these networks. OTOH, classified apps have all sorts of bureaucratic rules that the unclassified world doesn't have to consider.
For example, if this guy is coming from Silicon Valley, he might spend 80% of his time worrying about exploits that cost corporate American billions / year and which are due to unpatched systems which become targets for script-kiddies pounding every IP on the internet again and again, looking to take advantage of dozens of known vulnerabilities.
On the classified networks, these types of exploits just aren't as likely. There aren't fleets of bots in China and Russia trying known root passwords on every machine with port 22 open or trying to access open Mongo or Elastic Search systems on whole IP ranges.
On the other hand, a private sector SecOps guy isn't even considering that they absolutely cannot store multiple big program's databases in the same data center, staffed by the same contracting company. Because there's a huge risk that some rogue IT contractor with general root access in some small signals intelligence "datacenter" in Hawaii or Germany will end up having access to way too much sensitive data that is shared by multiple intel agencies and military branches, and it'd be disastrous if he decided to start taking raw disks home with him each night a la Snowden. The Air Force and other DOD agencies certainly must ensure that a single contractor doesn't have access to too many data sources.
And with everyone moving as fast as they can to AWS, Azure, etc, I'm guessing these type of procedure are far more important to the Air Force than worrying about some development team deploying an app on an older docker image based on some old version of Java or Python with a few known exploits, which could cost a private sector company a lot of pain and money the minute it was deployed on the open internet.
- Aeolun 5y agoI don’t think you want your airgap to be the only thing standing between your IT infra and total disaster. Especially in the military it seems entirely plausible that bad people gain access to your equipment.