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Neurocracy

249 points by evo_9 5y ago

anigbrowl 5y ago
You can do this right now for real if you're really interested. What OSINT does not guarantee is the epistemic closure of a crafted experience.
- imwillofficial 5y ago
  Any resources on getting started in the real world?
  - anigbrowl 5y ago
    Depends on what topic you're interested in really. If it's people, look up Michael Bazzell's stuff. Or there are all kinds of data science problems going unsolved.
- _1tan 5y ago
  How?
fouc 5y ago
> “I looked at Neurocracy and thought: this is perfect. It gave me vibes of Deus Ex, the SCP wiki, and of Borges’ Garden of Forking Paths.” https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22577088/neurocracy-wikipedia-murder-mystery-game https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22577088/neurocracy-wikip...
- tpoacher 5y ago
  > The in-universe text in Deus Ex had such a profound worldbuilding influence on Truyens that he included its lead writer, Sheldon Pacotti, in Omnipedia. This just made me want to play this. Sheldon Pacotti is an absolute genius. I started reading his books after finding out he was the lead scriptwriter in Deus Ex, and they've been amazing. Having said that, the quote above is ironic, since Pacotti wrote the script, not the in-game texts. Those were written by someone else, whose name escapes me now ... On the bright side, I'll be remembering soon, since now that Deus Ex had been mentioned, I'll have to reinstall it again ...
Aeolun 5y ago
Lol. I’m not sure how realistic this is any more. Pandemic that prompts global neural monitoring: 1,620,450 infections (with a death toll of 39,705) Pandemic that prompts… mild pressure to get vaccinated: 218,946,836 infections (with a death toll of 4,539,723) To be fair, CMD sounds more unpleasant.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  s/mild pressure to get vaccinated/a massive curtailing of freedom and privacy everywhere/
  - Yoric 5y ago
    Frankly, whether you agree or not with the rationales, in comparison to any previous vaccination campaign, this one is really, really mild. I think that I would have preferred a more straightforward law that mandates vaccination, rather than the more flexible/mild/sneaky approach taken by many governments, but I know that I would have hated being the one who makes any kind of public health call during this entire covid pandemic.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      > in comparison to any previous vaccination campaign, this one is really, really mild. I'm also referring to the lockdowns we had before the vaccine existed. Those certainly weren't mild.
  - Aeolun 5y ago
    Yes, yes, absolutely massive. Please wear a mask, and please stay home as much as possible. Very onerous. We’ve had lockdowns, but even those generally allow you to go outside for a walk.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      You don't consider "you're not allowed in any building other than your own house, the closest grocery store to you, or an emergency room" to be a massive curtailing of freedom? Because a lot of places basically said exactly that.
sweetheart 5y ago
Just started digging through the first chapter (I think?), which is linked to on the main page. This is so, so cool. What a fun and interesting idea.
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systemvoltage 5y ago
Realism of this is so eerily remarkable.
animanoir 5y ago
I do find this pretty cool.
gnulinux 5y ago
Very cool concept.
keeganpoppen 5y ago
other than the weird fixation on Drupal (i kid, i kid), this is really, really cool
josters 5y ago
Even before starting there are these cookie messages: [ ] Neurometric montages: If you are equipped with a neurometric colloid, such as those administered with a membership of G6, Omnipedia may use this function to authenticate your login automatically and continuously for up to eight hours. [ ] Behavioural montages: Omnipedia's algorithms can keep track of your emotional state and, depending on your reactions, highlight content that piques a particular interest or restrict content that may be deemed upsetting or inappropriate.
rkagerer 5y ago
This snagged my interest but after a while I found myself wishing there were a "next day" button. Is there some secret to progressing through the plot or do you have to click through every link and read through every minutia and all the change history of each article? Or is the "secret" to buy a pass? (I was hoping the free sample experience would have some sort of conclusion.)
- MrsPeaches 5y ago
  "The story of Neurocracy is episodic and unfolds across ten consecutive days in the year 2049. Each episode represents a snapshot of a single day" "Neurocracy is out now! Visit Omnipedia to access the first episode. To unlock the full experience, buy the season pass."
mellosouls 5y ago
Choose your own adventure...
sbierwagen 5y ago
520 error when you try to buy the season pass. Bummer.
zzzaim 5y ago
Anybody remember / still play [Nomics]? I thought this was something like that, but I guess it's different. Which got me thinking, what if it was like a Nomic? Imagine cloning an exact copy of Wikipedia on another server. Then have 2 player teams: bad guys and good guys. The bad guys edit/write articles to cover their tracks. The good guys scour articles and article histories trying to uncover the truth. Maybe there needs to be a "game master" team that does some type of moderation? I don't know, just spit balling here. Too crazy? [Nomics]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic
- jdiez17 5y ago
  There's Agora Nomic [1] which has been active for many years but I find it rather tedious to get into ongoing Nomic games. I have had a few fun Nomic games on Etherpad + IRC, but it's difficult to find people interested in playing realtime Nomic these days. [1] https://agoranomic.org/ https://agoranomic.org/
howtofly 5y ago
Chaos of US rather than China in 2049 will be a much more exciting topic. I will feel much more comfortable playing such a game.
spats1990 5y ago
CMD is in the fish! it's in the fish! we're all gonna die horribly
abvdasker 5y ago
This looks similar to a very entertaining game I played a while ago called Orwell. It’s mostly text based and simulates the experience of being an intelligence/signals analyst in a dystopian surveillance state.
patentatt 5y ago
The only problem I have with it so far is that the future worlds’ wealthiest person made his fortune from a drupal consultancy, lol.
wizzwizz4 5y ago
There's no Omnipedia article for “lamp”.
tarboreus 5y ago
It feels a little on the nose. I clicked "random article", and there's an article on the United States. Shockingly, the things in the headlines in the news over the past 2-5 years caused a massive decline. Maybe I've just read too much history, but the random topics of the day and trends that people care about one decade are almost universally irrelevant or forgotten in five decades. Some things were, in fact, important, but become background issues as people accept and adapt. Others are overblown, wrong, or artifacts on the political or cultural environment, i.e. proxies for anxieties that are generational or for the interests of a major institutional power with a short- or medium-term agenda. That is to say, if I were to create a wiki for the mid twenty-first century, I'd make it alienating, not comfortably extrapolative. The concerns of the populace should be head-scratchers for us. People should be arguing about shades in social strata that don't exist now, waxing moral on norms we haven't invented, and making jokes we don't have the context to get. Sociopolitically, we should expect a layering of cultural and political movements. In fifty years, that might include some kind of Reaganesque conservative reassertion, some kind of orthogonal or approximately novel social movement, and some kind of progressive or liberal progressive advance, and each reacting to one another and sticking around to greater or lesser extents. I think we will also be suprised to see what looks like zero or minimal progress in some areas that are currently hyped. I'll leave considering those as an exercise for the reader. Basically, the future is messy and alienating. We'll be old then, if we're alive, and the concerns of that day will not be the concerns of ours, or even extrapolations on those concerns.
ramesh31 5y ago
Does anyone else remember EA's "Majestic"? Whatever happened to these types of games?

249 points by evo_9 5y ago

You can do this right now for real if you're really interested. What OSINT does not guarantee is the epistemic closure of a crafted experience.

imwillofficial 5y ago
Any resources on getting started in the real world?
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  Depends on what topic you're interested in really. If it's people, look up Michael Bazzell's stuff. Or there are all kinds of data science problems going unsolved.
_1tan 5y ago
How?

fouc 5y ago

> “I looked at Neurocracy and thought: this is perfect. It gave me vibes of Deus Ex, the SCP wiki, and of Borges’ Garden of Forking Paths.” https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22577088/neurocracy-wikipedia-murder-mystery-game https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22577088/neurocracy-wikip...

tpoacher 5y ago
> The in-universe text in Deus Ex had such a profound worldbuilding influence on Truyens that he included its lead writer, Sheldon Pacotti, in Omnipedia. This just made me want to play this. Sheldon Pacotti is an absolute genius. I started reading his books after finding out he was the lead scriptwriter in Deus Ex, and they've been amazing. Having said that, the quote above is ironic, since Pacotti wrote the script, not the in-game texts. Those were written by someone else, whose name escapes me now ... On the bright side, I'll be remembering soon, since now that Deus Ex had been mentioned, I'll have to reinstall it again ...

Aeolun 5y ago

Lol. I’m not sure how realistic this is any more. Pandemic that prompts global neural monitoring: 1,620,450 infections (with a death toll of 39,705) Pandemic that prompts… mild pressure to get vaccinated: 218,946,836 infections (with a death toll of 4,539,723) To be fair, CMD sounds more unpleasant.

josephcsible 5y ago
s/mild pressure to get vaccinated/a massive curtailing of freedom and privacy everywhere/
- Yoric 5y ago
  Frankly, whether you agree or not with the rationales, in comparison to any previous vaccination campaign, this one is really, really mild. I think that I would have preferred a more straightforward law that mandates vaccination, rather than the more flexible/mild/sneaky approach taken by many governments, but I know that I would have hated being the one who makes any kind of public health call during this entire covid pandemic.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    > in comparison to any previous vaccination campaign, this one is really, really mild. I'm also referring to the lockdowns we had before the vaccine existed. Those certainly weren't mild.
- Aeolun 5y ago
  Yes, yes, absolutely massive. Please wear a mask, and please stay home as much as possible. Very onerous. We’ve had lockdowns, but even those generally allow you to go outside for a walk.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    You don't consider "you're not allowed in any building other than your own house, the closest grocery store to you, or an emergency room" to be a massive curtailing of freedom? Because a lot of places basically said exactly that.

sweetheart 5y ago

Just started digging through the first chapter (I think?), which is linked to on the main page. This is so, so cool. What a fun and interesting idea.

deleted 5y ago

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systemvoltage 5y ago

Realism of this is so eerily remarkable.

animanoir 5y ago

I do find this pretty cool.

gnulinux 5y ago

Very cool concept.

keeganpoppen 5y ago

other than the weird fixation on Drupal (i kid, i kid), this is really, really cool

josters 5y ago

Even before starting there are these cookie messages: [ ] Neurometric montages: If you are equipped with a neurometric colloid, such as those administered with a membership of G6, Omnipedia may use this function to authenticate your login automatically and continuously for up to eight hours. [ ] Behavioural montages: Omnipedia's algorithms can keep track of your emotional state and, depending on your reactions, highlight content that piques a particular interest or restrict content that may be deemed upsetting or inappropriate.

rkagerer 5y ago

This snagged my interest but after a while I found myself wishing there were a "next day" button. Is there some secret to progressing through the plot or do you have to click through every link and read through every minutia and all the change history of each article? Or is the "secret" to buy a pass? (I was hoping the free sample experience would have some sort of conclusion.)

MrsPeaches 5y ago
"The story of Neurocracy is episodic and unfolds across ten consecutive days in the year 2049. Each episode represents a snapshot of a single day" "Neurocracy is out now! Visit Omnipedia to access the first episode. To unlock the full experience, buy the season pass."

mellosouls 5y ago

Choose your own adventure...

sbierwagen 5y ago

520 error when you try to buy the season pass. Bummer.

zzzaim 5y ago

Anybody remember / still play [Nomics]? I thought this was something like that, but I guess it's different. Which got me thinking, what if it was like a Nomic? Imagine cloning an exact copy of Wikipedia on another server. Then have 2 player teams: bad guys and good guys. The bad guys edit/write articles to cover their tracks. The good guys scour articles and article histories trying to uncover the truth. Maybe there needs to be a "game master" team that does some type of moderation? I don't know, just spit balling here. Too crazy? [Nomics]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic

jdiez17 5y ago
There's Agora Nomic [1] which has been active for many years but I find it rather tedious to get into ongoing Nomic games. I have had a few fun Nomic games on Etherpad + IRC, but it's difficult to find people interested in playing realtime Nomic these days. [1] https://agoranomic.org/ https://agoranomic.org/

howtofly 5y ago

Chaos of US rather than China in 2049 will be a much more exciting topic. I will feel much more comfortable playing such a game.

spats1990 5y ago

CMD is in the fish! it's in the fish! we're all gonna die horribly

abvdasker 5y ago

This looks similar to a very entertaining game I played a while ago called Orwell. It’s mostly text based and simulates the experience of being an intelligence/signals analyst in a dystopian surveillance state.

patentatt 5y ago

The only problem I have with it so far is that the future worlds’ wealthiest person made his fortune from a drupal consultancy, lol.

wizzwizz4 5y ago

There's no Omnipedia article for “lamp”.

tarboreus 5y ago

It feels a little on the nose. I clicked "random article", and there's an article on the United States. Shockingly, the things in the headlines in the news over the past 2-5 years caused a massive decline. Maybe I've just read too much history, but the random topics of the day and trends that people care about one decade are almost universally irrelevant or forgotten in five decades. Some things were, in fact, important, but become background issues as people accept and adapt. Others are overblown, wrong, or artifacts on the political or cultural environment, i.e. proxies for anxieties that are generational or for the interests of a major institutional power with a short- or medium-term agenda. That is to say, if I were to create a wiki for the mid twenty-first century, I'd make it alienating, not comfortably extrapolative. The concerns of the populace should be head-scratchers for us. People should be arguing about shades in social strata that don't exist now, waxing moral on norms we haven't invented, and making jokes we don't have the context to get. Sociopolitically, we should expect a layering of cultural and political movements. In fifty years, that might include some kind of Reaganesque conservative reassertion, some kind of orthogonal or approximately novel social movement, and some kind of progressive or liberal progressive advance, and each reacting to one another and sticking around to greater or lesser extents. I think we will also be suprised to see what looks like zero or minimal progress in some areas that are currently hyped. I'll leave considering those as an exercise for the reader. Basically, the future is messy and alienating. We'll be old then, if we're alive, and the concerns of that day will not be the concerns of ours, or even extrapolations on those concerns.

ramesh31 5y ago

Does anyone else remember EA's "Majestic"? Whatever happened to these types of games?