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Funny coincidence as I am reading a novel that I have been putting off for decades, Neuromancer. Which I discovered after playing the game with the same name on

Funny coincidence as I am reading a novel that I have been putting off for decades, Neuromancer. Which I discovered after playing the game with the same name on C=64 as a kid. I loved the rendering of the cyberspace, the combat logic, the story and all. There are complete walkthrough now on youtube if you don’t want to go through all of it. The Amiga version was very nice graphically. I would love to see a GOOD Neuromancer movie. That would bring me back in the theatre.

ethbr0 5y ago
Don't forget there's a trilogy: Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive. The other books are just as good, if not better. Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. Gibson typically tires of writing in one style for more than three books. PS: There's an excellent New Rose Hotel movie that no one has ever seen. Highly recommend reading the short story and watching it. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0133122/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0133122/
- wintermutestwin 5y ago
  >Don't forget there's a trilogy: Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive. Indeed. I wished the article had spent more energy on his masterpiece trilogy...
  - prepend 5y ago
    I actually like the blue ant trilogy better. It was the first novels I read after 9/11 that factored it into the story in a realistic and reasonable way.
- mark_l_watson 5y ago
  Thanks, I just put New Rose Hotel on my watch list. Thanks for the link.
- e12e 5y ago
  > Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. Well, there's (most of) the short stories in Burning Chrome, and I don't think the break is that huge for the bridge trilogy. It's a different future from Neuromancer, though. Then again I've yet to read anything by Gibson I didn't like, including the most recent books. So I might not be the best guide... I recommend looking into Bruce Sterling, if you enjoy Gibson - particularly Islands in the Net (if you can find it! I ended up buying an expensive used copy online) and Holy Fire.
  - ethbr0 5y ago
    AFAIK, most of the Burning Chrome short stories were originally published before the Sprawl novels, then later collected in the anthology? (Side note: you can buy original 80s copies of Omni magazine with the first publication for pretty cheap off eBay) Other authors I've enjoyed, coming off Neuromancer-type Gibson: Richard K. Morgan (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Closest in tone. For god's sake don't watch the Amazon series for plot. Effinger comes up on a lot of lists, although I haven't read it myself yet. Vernor Vinge (A Fire Upon the Deep, A Deepness in the Sky, The Children of the Sky). Space opera instead of cyberpunk, but shares early Gibson's "incremental exposition," where you figure things out gradually vs all at once. Tbh, I think the best cyberpunk was always in short story form, and mostly before 1990.
    - e12e 5y ago
      > Richard K. Morgan (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Closest in tone. For god's sake don't watch the Amazon series for plot. Also (different setting): Black Man/Thirteen and Thin Air.
    - e12e 5y ago
      > AFAIK, most of the Burning Chrome short stories were originally published before the Sprawl novels I didn't actually realize any of the short stories came out after Neuromancer (1984)(or indeed that the omnibus(1986) did) - but a few were later works: New Rose Hotel July 1984 The Winter Market April 1986 Dogfight July 1985 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Chrome_(short_story_collection)#Contents https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Chrome_(short_story_...
- krylon 5y ago
  I've seen it. Twice. The first time was a bit of a let-down, but the cast is brilliant, and I have come to appreciate the slow pacing very much.
- 8fingerlouie 5y ago
  > Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. There's the entire Bridge trilogi which acts as a kind of precursor to the Neuromancer universe.
wintermutestwin 5y ago
>I would love to see a GOOD Neuromancer movie. I've lusted after this for over 30 years now. At this point, I am kinda glad that Hollywood never got it off the ground. What I wanted was a good graphic novel version. They came out with a first edition, but no more. I sold it this year on an ebay spree...
mark_l_watson 5y ago
At least you have the Johnny Mnemonic movie which I have watched and enjoyed several times since I had it on a VHS tape I bought. BTW, 30 seconds ago, I re-purchased it in digital form from the Google Play Store.
dgritsko 5y ago
When I finally got around to picking up a copy of Neuromancer, the book was so small that I was concerned that there was an abridged version that I had somehow wound up with and looked up the page count online. Nope, just turns out that that's how Gibson writes. Love his style though, it's amazing how much he's able to accomplish with so little.
drpgq 5y ago
As a kid I really liked that C64 Neuromancer game and it had the side benefit of introducing me to the book.
eps 5y ago
> Movie The magic of Neuromancer is not just the story, it's in how its written. An average sentence carries as much information and visuals as a whole paragraph in a more ordinary book. The data per character rate is absolutely insane, there's nothing quite like it. It's like reading a zip file. So fucking cool. This aspect of the book will be next to impossible to capture in a movie... least you'd be expected to pause every few seconds to decipher what you see and what's going on. So the chances for a movie adaptation that really groks the book are zero. But perhaps it's for the best.
- rcarmo 5y ago
  “It's like reading a zip file.” That’s so Gibson of you :)
sien 5y ago
There is a very good radio play adaption of Neuromancer from the BBC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89BHnaxULo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89BHnaxULo The Neuromancer film was last meant to be directed by Tim Miller who directed Deadpool and was to be released in 2021. So somehow the mess with the film rights may be resolved somehow. The Neuromancer trilogy would make a great TV series. A few episodes for each book.
makmanalp 5y ago
Is this the one with the Devo soundtrack? chiptunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib8IYfcOnWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib8IYfcOnWU original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8OmnRIBvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8OmnRIBvA

ethbr0 5y ago

Don't forget there's a trilogy: Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive. The other books are just as good, if not better. Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. Gibson typically tires of writing in one style for more than three books. PS: There's an excellent New Rose Hotel movie that no one has ever seen. Highly recommend reading the short story and watching it. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0133122/ https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0133122/

wintermutestwin 5y ago
>Don't forget there's a trilogy: Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive. Indeed. I wished the article had spent more energy on his masterpiece trilogy...
- prepend 5y ago
  I actually like the blue ant trilogy better. It was the first novels I read after 9/11 that factored it into the story in a realistic and reasonable way.
mark_l_watson 5y ago
Thanks, I just put New Rose Hotel on my watch list. Thanks for the link.
e12e 5y ago
> Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. Well, there's (most of) the short stories in Burning Chrome, and I don't think the break is that huge for the bridge trilogy. It's a different future from Neuromancer, though. Then again I've yet to read anything by Gibson I didn't like, including the most recent books. So I might not be the best guide... I recommend looking into Bruce Sterling, if you enjoy Gibson - particularly Islands in the Net (if you can find it! I ended up buying an expensive used copy online) and Holy Fire.
- ethbr0 5y ago
  AFAIK, most of the Burning Chrome short stories were originally published before the Sprawl novels, then later collected in the anthology? (Side note: you can buy original 80s copies of Omni magazine with the first publication for pretty cheap off eBay) Other authors I've enjoyed, coming off Neuromancer-type Gibson: Richard K. Morgan (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Closest in tone. For god's sake don't watch the Amazon series for plot. Effinger comes up on a lot of lists, although I haven't read it myself yet. Vernor Vinge (A Fire Upon the Deep, A Deepness in the Sky, The Children of the Sky). Space opera instead of cyberpunk, but shares early Gibson's "incremental exposition," where you figure things out gradually vs all at once. Tbh, I think the best cyberpunk was always in short story form, and mostly before 1990.
  - e12e 5y ago
    > Richard K. Morgan (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Closest in tone. For god's sake don't watch the Amazon series for plot. Also (different setting): Black Man/Thirteen and Thin Air.
  - e12e 5y ago
    > AFAIK, most of the Burning Chrome short stories were originally published before the Sprawl novels I didn't actually realize any of the short stories came out after Neuromancer (1984)(or indeed that the omnibus(1986) did) - but a few were later works: New Rose Hotel July 1984 The Winter Market April 1986 Dogfight July 1985 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Chrome_(short_story_collection)#Contents https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Chrome_(short_story_...
krylon 5y ago
I've seen it. Twice. The first time was a bit of a let-down, but the cast is brilliant, and I have come to appreciate the slow pacing very much.
8fingerlouie 5y ago
> Although be prepared that if you like it too much, there's no more. There's the entire Bridge trilogi which acts as a kind of precursor to the Neuromancer universe.

wintermutestwin 5y ago

>I would love to see a GOOD Neuromancer movie. I've lusted after this for over 30 years now. At this point, I am kinda glad that Hollywood never got it off the ground. What I wanted was a good graphic novel version. They came out with a first edition, but no more. I sold it this year on an ebay spree...

mark_l_watson 5y ago

At least you have the Johnny Mnemonic movie which I have watched and enjoyed several times since I had it on a VHS tape I bought. BTW, 30 seconds ago, I re-purchased it in digital form from the Google Play Store.

dgritsko 5y ago

When I finally got around to picking up a copy of Neuromancer, the book was so small that I was concerned that there was an abridged version that I had somehow wound up with and looked up the page count online. Nope, just turns out that that's how Gibson writes. Love his style though, it's amazing how much he's able to accomplish with so little.

drpgq 5y ago

As a kid I really liked that C64 Neuromancer game and it had the side benefit of introducing me to the book.

eps 5y ago

> Movie The magic of Neuromancer is not just the story, it's in how its written. An average sentence carries as much information and visuals as a whole paragraph in a more ordinary book. The data per character rate is absolutely insane, there's nothing quite like it. It's like reading a zip file. So fucking cool. This aspect of the book will be next to impossible to capture in a movie... least you'd be expected to pause every few seconds to decipher what you see and what's going on. So the chances for a movie adaptation that really groks the book are zero. But perhaps it's for the best.

rcarmo 5y ago
“It's like reading a zip file.” That’s so Gibson of you :)

sien 5y ago

There is a very good radio play adaption of Neuromancer from the BBC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89BHnaxULo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S89BHnaxULo The Neuromancer film was last meant to be directed by Tim Miller who directed Deadpool and was to be released in 2021. So somehow the mess with the film rights may be resolved somehow. The Neuromancer trilogy would make a great TV series. A few episodes for each book.

makmanalp 5y ago

Is this the one with the Devo soundtrack? chiptunes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib8IYfcOnWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib8IYfcOnWU original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8OmnRIBvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf8OmnRIBvA