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As an American, it’s not the EUs job to manage the…. Less than rational amongst us over here. If the US government doesn’t have the backbone to enforce strict m

by atty 5y ago

As an American, it’s not the EUs job to manage the…. Less than rational amongst us over here. If the US government doesn’t have the backbone to enforce strict mask and vaccine mandates, it seems only logical and right that other countries will do things like this.

GDC7 5y ago
It's the same everywhere. There is a 40-10% in every country which won't get the vaccine. It's not their fault, there is some mechanism inside their brains which makes them highly skeptical of everything. And there are so many of them because back in the days it was an evolutionary advantage to be skeptical of everything. Back when humans lived in groups of hundreds to thousands and were routinely attacked by other groups of hundreds to thousands.
- bee_rider 5y ago
  10%-40% is a pretty wide range.
- pbourke 5y ago
  > It's not their fault, there is some mechanism inside their brains which makes them highly suspicious of everything. Some “highly suspicious” individuals are ingesting ivermectin paste for horses from the farm supply store.
- literallyaduck 5y ago
  It is probably an evolved trait. Imagine a scenario in which we had 100% adoption of a choice and the choice killed the population. Contrarians keep the species alive and sometimes they die and sometimes they don't. Some people don't want blankets, Syphilis (multiple times to multiple groups Guatemala and Tuskegee)), or other government help. Is the vaccine one of those? Probably not, but I can understand the skeptical faction.
  - GDC7 5y ago
    Perfect scenario for a divorce then. People want and need to go back to travel. Especially between US-China-EU If it was for me I'd allow everybody, but given that majority rules and the majority is made up of vaccinated people , and the aforementioned majority doesn't want these people near them in their 12hrs plane trip...then it's a perfect scenario to let the skeptics enjoy the dodged bullet in their home country
nradov 5y ago
Denmark isn't enforcing strict mask and vaccination mandates. What do you think the EU should do to manage that? The US is hardly a policy outlier, and backbone or lack thereof is not the issue. https://www.thelocal.dk/20210614/denmark-ends-requirement-to-wear-face-masks-everywhere-but-standing-on-public-transport/ https://www.thelocal.dk/20210614/denmark-ends-requirement-to...
- tzs 5y ago
  Denmark has a high vaccination rate and has kept their case rate under control and their death rate almost insignificant even during COVID. They are handling every aspect of this quite a bit better than the US is. Here is a graph of case rates of them, the US, and a few others [1]. Here's death rates [2]. [1] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=United%20States&show=highlight-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=Denmark%2CIsrael%2CCanada%2CPortugal%2CSpain#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri... [2] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=United%20States&show=highlight-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=Denmark%2CIsrael%2CCanada%2CPortugal%2CSpain#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri...

by atty 5y ago

GDC7 5y ago

It's the same everywhere. There is a 40-10% in every country which won't get the vaccine. It's not their fault, there is some mechanism inside their brains which makes them highly skeptical of everything. And there are so many of them because back in the days it was an evolutionary advantage to be skeptical of everything. Back when humans lived in groups of hundreds to thousands and were routinely attacked by other groups of hundreds to thousands.

bee_rider 5y ago
10%-40% is a pretty wide range.
pbourke 5y ago
> It's not their fault, there is some mechanism inside their brains which makes them highly suspicious of everything. Some “highly suspicious” individuals are ingesting ivermectin paste for horses from the farm supply store.
literallyaduck 5y ago
It is probably an evolved trait. Imagine a scenario in which we had 100% adoption of a choice and the choice killed the population. Contrarians keep the species alive and sometimes they die and sometimes they don't. Some people don't want blankets, Syphilis (multiple times to multiple groups Guatemala and Tuskegee)), or other government help. Is the vaccine one of those? Probably not, but I can understand the skeptical faction.
- GDC7 5y ago
  Perfect scenario for a divorce then. People want and need to go back to travel. Especially between US-China-EU If it was for me I'd allow everybody, but given that majority rules and the majority is made up of vaccinated people , and the aforementioned majority doesn't want these people near them in their 12hrs plane trip...then it's a perfect scenario to let the skeptics enjoy the dodged bullet in their home country

nradov 5y ago

Denmark isn't enforcing strict mask and vaccination mandates. What do you think the EU should do to manage that? The US is hardly a policy outlier, and backbone or lack thereof is not the issue. https://www.thelocal.dk/20210614/denmark-ends-requirement-to-wear-face-masks-everywhere-but-standing-on-public-transport/ https://www.thelocal.dk/20210614/denmark-ends-requirement-to...

tzs 5y ago
Denmark has a high vaccination rate and has kept their case rate under control and their death rate almost insignificant even during COVID. They are handling every aspect of this quite a bit better than the US is. Here is a graph of case rates of them, the US, and a few others [1]. Here's death rates [2]. [1] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=United%20States&show=highlight-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=Denmark%2CIsrael%2CCanada%2CPortugal%2CSpain#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri... [2] http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries-normalized&highlight=United%20States&show=highlight-only&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right&extra=Denmark%2CIsrael%2CCanada%2CPortugal%2CSpain#countries-normalized http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countri...